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Possible DBA in the city today - FESA Pics

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:41 pm
by gkoutlis
Hi all;

As per my post in FESA section here are the pics I managed to snap up from my phone. Please excuse the clarity etc (from my phone)..

First 6 pics are of Osborne Park Pump and Light Tanker - Kensington was 1st at scene. Enjoy - G 8)

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Re: Possible DBA in the city today - FESA Pics

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:43 pm
by yorky
I notice in #2 people are walking in front of the moving appliances? :shock:

Re: Possible DBA in the city today - FESA Pics

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:45 pm
by gkoutlis
yorky wrote:I notice in #2 people are walking in front of the moving appliances? :shock:
Yeah what else is new - I saw it and was yeah - then 3 Police officers on bicycles - caught up with those people, didn't see what happend to them.

G

Re: Possible DBA in the city today - FESA Pics

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:00 pm
by Tyranus
Good shots there Mr. G glad someone got to see the action and get some photo's. Thanks for sharing.

Re: Possible DBA in the city today - FESA Pics

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:47 am
by written_ficton
yorky wrote:I notice in #2 people are walking in front of the moving appliances? :shock:
Yeah what else is new - I saw it and was yeah - then 3 Police officers on bicycles - caught up with those people, didn't see what happend to them.

G
I'm interested to know more on what the laws will be in respect to ped's... I can understand that under firecall conditions you would presume peds will stop and let the vechile proceed which I presume was the case in the MP with lights flashing. But with the LT as yorky pointed out they havn't got the beacons going...

Is there laws for this?

Maybe somone could enlighten me, would those peds face a fine? with what the pictures show?

Re: Possible DBA in the city today - FESA Pics

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:51 am
by Tyranus
I'd be very surprised if the light tankers lights were not flashing. I expect the lights were all facing the other way when the photo was taken.
Shouldn't think there'd be fines or anything involved, just "You realised you walked in front of a fire truck under emergency conditions travelling to an incident? Do you know what fire trucks do when they hit someone? etc." Though a fine could probably be issued for crossing when the little red man was showing.

Re: Possible DBA in the city today - FESA Pics

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:58 am
by gkoutlis
If i can jump in an add something here, - having been a witness to this.

It was actually Osborne Park Pumper (the one in front) that actually turned OFF it's beacons and just used "short bursts" of it's siren to cut through the crowds on the Murray Street Mall.

The LT of Osborne Park had its beacons on the whole time. Including the stationary Kensington Pump and LT.

G

Re: Possible DBA in the city today - FESA Pics

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:01 am
by written_ficton
gkoutlis wrote:If i can jump in an add something here, - having been a witness to this.

It was actually Osborne Park Pumper (the one in front) that actually turned OFF it's beacons and just used "short bursts" of it's siren to cut through the crowds on the Murray Street Mall.

The LT of Osborne Park had its beacons on the whole time. Including the stationary Kensington Pump and LT.

G
I guess the picture was caught at the wrong time which doesnt show Osborne Park LT's flashing lights

Re: Possible DBA in the city today - FESA Pics

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:03 am
by gkoutlis
Possibly - it was abit hard to take the pic with people everywhere...

Anyhow, Osborne Park Pump and LT did have all beacons and sirens blaring, until they turned into the Mall, waiting for the bollards to come down.
G

Re: Possible DBA in the city today - FESA Pics

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:16 am
by written_ficton
gkoutlis wrote:Possibly - it was abit hard to take the pic with people everywhere...

Anyhow, Osborne Park Pump and LT did have all beacons and sirens blaring, until they turned into the Mall, waiting for the bollards to come down.
G
Another great thing done by City of Perth....... but both have pro's con's about them

Re: Possible DBA in the city today - FESA Pics

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:04 am
by Blinky
yorky wrote:I notice in #2 people are walking in front of the moving appliances? :shock:
It would seem nothing stops people in a Christmas shopping frenzy....how sad

Re: Possible DBA in the city today - FESA Pics

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:06 am
by Fastlane
Not sure the law covers anything as far as pedestrians giving way to emergency vehicles. Certainly a stern talking to would have been in order though!

Re: Possible DBA in the city today - FESA Pics

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:13 am
by written_ficton
Fastlane wrote:Not sure the law covers anything as far as pedestrians giving way to emergency vehicles. Certainly a stern talking to would have been in order though!
The bollards were up [so vechile] was stationary? Hence why they are walking?

Re: Possible DBA in the city today - FESA Pics

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 5:09 pm
by AVBFS
The laws for traffic against Ped's state that vehicles must give way to Ped's no matter what the ped's actions are at the time this includes Emergency vehicles.However they could be charged with obstruction of an officer under the Fire Brigades Act 1943 if they where given a lawful order (a siren is not an order voice over the PA is)