Volunteer traffic managers
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:13 pm
Should volunteer traffic managers be illegal?
(Edit by admn: changed topic)
(Edit by admn: changed topic)
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:04 pm
I believe unless they have the correct qualifications, then yes. The Police have the experience and know-how to deal with traffic more than a try hard in a veedub. If he had the qualifications to deal with this kind of thing then I wouldn't mind, but he certainly should not be listening to his scanner for accidents, then rocking up at them, he is putting not only his own life, but other road users and emergency service personnel at risk as well. I can't wait to see someone do something about this.
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:14 pm
People do this??Schism_ wrote:I believe unless they have the correct qualifications, then yes. The Police have the experience and know-how to deal with traffic more than a try hard in a veedub. If he had the qualifications to deal with this kind of thing then I wouldn't mind, but he certainly should not be listening to his scanner for accidents, then rocking up at them, he is putting not only his own life, but other road users and emergency service personnel at risk as well. I can't wait to see someone do something about this.
Can you elaborate??
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:47 pm
Kinetic, there is an example of a volunteer traffic manager in this video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGW5fiDOi40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGW5fiDOi40
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:02 pm
The word here is "volunteer"...
NO!
NO!
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:12 pm
While i dont think it should be illegal to attempt to direct traffic in an emergency in which your involved or see i do believe acting on ANY information heard over the scanner to put your life in danger, not only this anyone driving past assumes he knows what he is doing and will follow his instructions, which can be dangerous if indeed hes just some john doe who has no life.
The fact that he has dedicated his own vehicle and his time to doing this and has displayed evidence on this forum that he hasnt investigated the rules and regulations regarding his chosen volunteer work (Ambers on private vehicles) i have some doubts as to whether or not he has the common sense to provide a safe and legal service to the community.
Should it be illegal for a member of the public to direct traffic in an emergency? No
Should it be illegal to kit out a vehicle for the sole purpose of chasing scanner calls to provide such a service without permission ftom the dpi? Definately
The fact that he has dedicated his own vehicle and his time to doing this and has displayed evidence on this forum that he hasnt investigated the rules and regulations regarding his chosen volunteer work (Ambers on private vehicles) i have some doubts as to whether or not he has the common sense to provide a safe and legal service to the community.
Should it be illegal for a member of the public to direct traffic in an emergency? No
Should it be illegal to kit out a vehicle for the sole purpose of chasing scanner calls to provide such a service without permission ftom the dpi? Definately
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:14 pm
Hmmm jmmw I think you have hit the nail on the head there.
If he did an accredited course and had approval, I wouldn't mind him acting on scanner info (similar to towies) as someone who knows what they are doing is better than no-one.... or worse - someone who doesn't know what they are doing!
Imagine doing points and actually causing a fatal accident!
Be a volunteer - but be accredited!
If he did an accredited course and had approval, I wouldn't mind him acting on scanner info (similar to towies) as someone who knows what they are doing is better than no-one.... or worse - someone who doesn't know what they are doing!
Imagine doing points and actually causing a fatal accident!
Be a volunteer - but be accredited!
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:22 pm
He should at least be accredited, for example private Pilots that escort "OVERSIZE" vehicle are trained and licenced to control traffic. It would be like a Pilot stopping at an accident and directing traffic, I would not have a problem with this at all.
Saying that I delt with some pilots out there that could'nt direct traffic in a bloody shoebox.
Saying that I delt with some pilots out there that could'nt direct traffic in a bloody shoebox.
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:52 pm
Kinetic it has been mentioned in another topic, but i'll post the link again.
http://www2.mainroads.wa.gov.au/Interne ... s/HERO.asp
http://www2.mainroads.wa.gov.au/Interne ... s/HERO.asp
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:22 pm
How do HERO's relate to this topic, they are are trained Main Roads Officers........not volunteers.
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:01 am
Omg... well I didn't believe it until I saw it, and now I have. Thanks truckie for the footage. IMHO, that looks completely unprofessional AND like all the gear has been pilfered from various places along one's travels 
I'm in complete agreeance with accreditation in regards to scenes like this. Dangerous not only to self, but others. I'm perturbed by it all to say the least!
I'm in complete agreeance with accreditation in regards to scenes like this. Dangerous not only to self, but others. I'm perturbed by it all to say the least!Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:27 am
Oh god. Another accident/fire/police chaser.truckie wrote:Kinetic, there is an example of a volunteer traffic manager in this video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGW5fiDOi40
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:53 am
We could class most Towies in the same boat though....
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:18 pm
Wonder if he paid for those traffic cones (witches hats), they are over $70 each!!??
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:43 pm
Judging by the difference between them all (big/small/reflective/solid/old/new) i would say he taxed them.