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meg wrote:

Fastlane wrote:but it does mean the Minister can direct someone to take control of ANY fire, regardless of where it is.

Forgive me for being dense, but what exactly does that mean?

Metro firies "directed" to go (say) to a fire down south? What about volunteers who have day jobs?

edit: forgive me if I sound paranoid but have heard some rumors...

you're a volunteer.. no-one can force you to go to a fire ?

JG-103 wrote:i thought they declare that when they have a % (like 80 odd or somethin) of resources in action... or is that somethin else ???

Something else I suspect.

Fastlane wrote:you're a volunteer.. no-one can force you to go to a fire ?

That would be my take on it too. Just wondering

Waroona is goin up - 4th alarm- millsy has just informed me

a total fire ban doesn't mean anything when nothing is done about
people who i'llegally burn off when burning off is prohibited anyway

JG,

This fire in waroona. Is it a fresh new fire or a hop over from the other ?.

Large grass fire in hope valley last night/this morning. 4th alarm plus Appliances will be there all day as the mop up is rather large.

Did you manage to make it jg ?. We got the call as i was writing to you about waroona.

meg wrote:

Fastlane wrote:but it does mean the Minister can direct someone to take control of ANY fire, regardless of where it is.

Forgive me for being dense, but what exactly does that mean?

Metro firies "directed" to go (say) to a fire down south? What about volunteers who have day jobs?

edit: forgive me if I sound paranoid but have heard some rumors...

I suspect it would mean that the Minister for Emergency Services can overrule Local Government's independance when it comes to the deployment of their BFB resources. Taken from Section 21(3)(a) and 21(3)(b) of the Bush Fires Act 1954....

(3) (a) During a fire emergency period the Minister may
appoint a person to take charge of bush fire fighting
operations in an area to which the declaration made
under subsection (1) applies.

(b) Where a person is so appointed all local governments,
bush fire control officers, bush fire liaison officers and the
captains, lieutenants and members of bush fire brigades or
other persons shall comply with the directions given by
that person in connection with the suppression and
control of a fire which is burning in the area.

Just my interpretation....

[/quote]

I suspect it would mean that the Minister for Emergency Services can overrule Local Government's independance when it comes to the deployment of their BFB resources. Taken from Section 21(3)(a) and 21(3)(b) of the Bush Fires Act 1954....

(3) (a) During a fire emergency period the Minister may
appoint a person to take charge of bush fire fighting
operations in an area to which the declaration made
under subsection (1) applies.

(b) Where a person is so appointed all local governments,
bush fire control officers, bush fire liaison officers and the
captains, lieutenants and members of bush fire brigades or
other persons shall comply with the directions given by
that person in connection with the suppression and
control of a fire which is burning in the area.

Just my interpretation....[/quote]

So in short the minister can direct vollies to an incident under these clauses

rich wrote:a total fire ban doesn't mean anything when nothing is done about
people who i'llegally burn off when burning off is prohibited anyway

The problem is the fines just aren’t big enough to deter people from lighting up. The current fines need to be increased ten fold so if they do burn off when they shouldn’t it hits them where it really hurts. As for the bastards running around lighting up they should have a substantially higher jail time as a minimum sentence.

me n chris went to a 3rd alarm last night, hope valley rd x lusky

There was :
Hope Valley
Rockingham 1st
Mandogalup 3.4 and both lt's
Kwinana VFRS
Rockingham 2nd 2.4U
Rockingham 3rd lt
Mandurah 2.4 U
Secret Harbour 2.4 U which i was told by the captain was there but i didnt see it.

We got there at 1030, got stood down at 0400.

JG,

Both secret harbour GPA and mandurah 2nd 2.4U were both at the hope vally fire this morning. They arrived not long after you guys left. They were also calling in other appliances at 5. Just as we left at 5.30 this morning kensington career and daglish i think it was arrived and kwinana sth were turning out.

Whish appliance were the two of you on. I was on our 2nd light tanker

I thought ud be there but i didnt want to go around asking

I was in Mandogalup Lt 1 (yellow)
And chris was in Mandogalup lt 2 (white)

Me n him where both on radio so if u didnt see us then u would of heard us numerous times.


Specially when we where on that northern flank of the quarry

Might have even seen u when we was having a feed

Yes would have heard you. I was always on the 2nd light tanker radio doing constant hop overs. Even had a good one just after you guys left. Was desperate for tankers but most had left.

Suprised that you guys arent still there. We got back at 6 and they were trying to call us back there at 8.30. hard to get up though after a long shift on the ground

Yes, we where at BP when we heard that u had a hop over. When we got back to station, kwinana chief was sayin how they needed two 3.4's... why ? there wasnt much left to do when we left...

aaaaggh the joys of it being hope valley's area and not ours (for a change )


OH YEAH

Fire started by a car fire- a 98 white VT commodore.. whith ok alloys too