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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:36 pm
by yorky
Toottoot wrote:Do TE cars get TASKED to attend traffic offences or only Ax cars? Do Ax cars do RBTs and lasers or is that TE cars?
(correct me if I'm wrong on any of these danny)

TE cars don't get tasked, however I'm sure if they hear it on the radio they may float past.

Ax cars also partake in RBTs and laser on there own if they are quiet. Obviously the TE breath section do the bus's.

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:43 pm
by Clontarf[X]
kinda on topic (or not). saw a TE with a young bloke in a VT commodor pulled on west swan road just down from the prison. the VT driver didn't look too happy :D

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:01 pm
by danny
yorky wrote:
Toottoot wrote:Do TE cars get TASKED to attend traffic offences or only Ax cars? Do Ax cars do RBTs and lasers or is that TE cars?
(correct me if I'm wrong on any of these danny)

TE cars don't get tasked, however I'm sure if they hear it on the radio they may float past.

Ax cars also partake in RBTs and laser on there own if they are quiet. Obviously the TE breath section do the bus's.
As with most Police Vehicles TE has a AVL (Auto Vehicle Locater), if a job comes up and we are close, ie a crash or cars cutting up and hooning etc, we get asked to attend if the district cars are tied up.

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:24 pm
by spartacus
yorky wrote:
Toottoot wrote:Do TE cars get TASKED to attend traffic offences or only Ax cars? Do Ax cars do RBTs and lasers or is that TE cars?
(correct me if I'm wrong on any of these danny)

TE cars don't get tasked, however I'm sure if they hear it on the radio they may float past.
Also read todays Sunday times pg, 8

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:26 pm
by Toottoot
Don't tell me there was something worth reading in the Sunday Times.

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:54 pm
by playworth
Toottoot wrote:Don't tell me there was something worth reading in the Sunday Times.
back page helps my day

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:02 pm
by jmmw
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:03 am
by GC101
Difference is district traffic cars i.e. AG AN etc... Are attached to a district TEG are a state wide 'independent' resource not tied up to a district...

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:49 am
by Tyranus
Saw it but evidently your download limit on your broadband isn't maxed out. Plus you got it before me...glad someone did though ;)

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:17 pm
by Zebedee
danny wrote:
Tyranus wrote:Jeez danny you've really started something here! lol but it has lead into an interesting discussion.
That was the point, for a interesting discussion :)

I think alot of people forget TEGS already attend alot of urgent tasks and alot of traffic crashes already. When cars are calling for urgent back up, theres not a officer at the office that wont get there as quick as the car will allow, trust me.

According to that report we attended 700 non traffic jobs last year as it was.
If the TEGS are already attending urgent situations that's technically "not their job", could this move be nothing more sinister than formalising what already happens in reality?

I hate to sound cynical, and I don't really mean it as such, but is it an arse-covering exercise for someone, so they don't get in trouble for sending TEGS officers to a non-TEGS job? (And I really don't mean that in an unkind way, but hey - everyone's got to make sure that they're working within "the rules", and if "the rules" aren't working then they might need to be changed...)

To be honest I was disappointed in the Sunday Times for the article, and found it a tad hypocritical that on the same page was also an article criticising the police for being late to P2 jobs. They can't have it both ways (well, actually they can, they're the media, where rules of common sense rarely apply :P )

As others have said, the simple answer is more police - but to achieve that, the option of becoming a police officer has to be made more attractive, and more work has to go into improving conditions for police so they don't get fed up and leave.

Just my 2c worth - let the flaming begin :)

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:33 pm
by Toottoot
I believe that the TEG section should stay but be nothing more than administration.

The TEG cars should go back to the district to focus on local areas and develop local knowledge. Also to be in the area when non traffic jobs come in and be able to respond if not otherwise engaged.

When there are major traffic operations they should be co ordinated by the administrative TEG section who ring district supervisors and request cars for jobs. Buses to be sent to districts also but available for coordinated responses.

That way there is more chance of seeing TEG cars out there.

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:36 pm
by Tyranus
Toottoot wrote:I believe that the TEG section should stay but be nothing more than administration.

The TEG cars should go back to the district to focus on local areas and develop local knowledge. Also to be in the area when non traffic jobs come in and be able to respond if not otherwise engaged.

When there are major traffic operations they should be co ordinated by the administrative TEG section who ring district supervisors and request cars for jobs. Buses to be sent to districts also but available for coordinated responses.

That way there is more chance of seeing TEG cars out there.
You wouldn't see TEG cars out there with your plan, you would see more district cars. There would no longer be TExxx. i.e. if Danny was moved to midland he'd be HM7xx.

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:54 pm
by Toottoot
Either/either - doesnt matter what the call sign they would do the same job. Even with Ax call signs can leave livery marked up as HWP or other hi vis.

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:30 pm
by playworth
Tyranus wrote:
Toottoot wrote:I believe that the TEG section should stay but be nothing more than administration.

The TEG cars should go back to the district to focus on local areas and develop local knowledge. Also to be in the area when non traffic jobs come in and be able to respond if not otherwise engaged.

When there are major traffic operations they should be co ordinated by the administrative TEG section who ring district supervisors and request cars for jobs. Buses to be sent to districts also but available for coordinated responses.

That way there is more chance of seeing TEG cars out there.
You wouldn't see TEG cars out there with your plan, you would see more district cars. There would no longer be TExxx. i.e. if Danny was moved to midland he'd be HM7xx.
hey danny say hello to bones/sketeon for me,he at cannington now doing AJ.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:53 pm
by donks
danny wrote:
Ausrob wrote:Outsource office work, 1 police officer per car then we don't need TEG as their will be plenty of cars on road to do random stops.
OH&S means 2 officers per car, better safety :)

With traffic work 2 officers seeing the same thing is alot better evidence than the old one on one.
just a quicky RE Motorbike Police Officers.... Do they usually always travel in pairs? and also do they work @ night time?

I have never seen a police motorbike on duty at night... unless its a special event ect...

cheers