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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:37 am
by vk6hgr
Chicky wrote:Cheers, CI. Expensive risk!
It's not the fine that's the issue. It's (quite frankly) stupid MORONS who drive around boom gates because they're on such a hurry they're willing to risk their lives to get to their destination a few minutes earlier.
I mean, how many horrific vehicle v train crashes do we need before people get the picture?!
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:05 am
by Tyranus
how many more before people stop drink driving??
How many more before people stop talking on their phone??
the sad thing is, the list goes on...The REALLY sad thing is it's not going to stop!
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:18 pm
by phreak
sorry to bring this up again... but those cameras... are they activated when the red lights start flashing? x amount of seconds after they start flashing? or once the boom gates start to move down?
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:13 pm
by Toottoot
From the looks of them they have an ultrasonic movement sensor box under the camera. To save them constantly snapping I would assume the controller gets a signal from the boom gate controller to say lights flashing, you can take a photo if the ultrasonic beam is tripped.
I am sure all the traffic light sensors and the red light camera sensors are induction loop. They could do it by weight using load cells which minimise if not eliminate mechanics but that is still more complex than you actually need.
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:55 pm
by phreak
they are all induction (direct from someone inside MRWA)
i'm going to stand by one of these rail intersections one day ALL DAY untill i see someone get snapped... i wanna see how it works haha
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:19 pm
by Toottoot
phreak wrote:they are all induction (direct from someone inside MRWA)
i'm going to stand by one of these rail intersections one day ALL DAY untill i see someone get snapped... i wanna see how it works haha
What is the box under the camera lense then?
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:36 am
by phreak
Toottoot wrote:phreak wrote:they are all induction (direct from someone inside MRWA)
i'm going to stand by one of these rail intersections one day ALL DAY untill i see someone get snapped... i wanna see how it works haha
What is the box under the camera lense then?
i meant that TCL cameras are induction. i have no idea how the rail ones work. i havent seen any induction loops on the ground. Also just noticed 'RED LIGHT CAMERA' signs been erected before the boom gates.
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:37 am
by celestial_insight
The box under the camera looks like an old x-band motion detector (like the ones that used to be on automatic doors before infra-red took over). Similar in operation to the motion detectors used at TCL operated crosswalks to signal no-one is on the crosswalk anymore. I haven't been to this crossing to see the placement. Is the camera facing oncoming traffic through the boom gates (ie will it take a photo of the front of the vehicle/cyclist/pedestrian if they stayed in the correct lane - before the boom gate went down)? or is it facing a diagonal (to snap photos of people who zig-zag through the intersection when the gates are down?
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:05 pm
by nachoman
These cameras were in the news a few days ago. Something about the opposition claiming the $400K+ cameras were not being used to prosecute anyone because they hadn't been calibrated to police standards yet ??
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:46 pm
by Toottoot
I noticed one at Welshpool rd crossing the other day also.
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:10 am
by Q4004
Kelvin Road is a shocking crossing. Boomgates fail and everything there fails. I noted alst night that the pedestrian crossing lights failed and played up while the boomgates were working fine.
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:44 pm
by Cloverfield
Q4004 wrote:Kelvin Road is a shocking crossing. Boom gates fail and everything there fails. I noted alst night that the pedestrian crossing lights failed and played up while the boomgates were working fine.
Railways have a Fail Safe policy, the boomgates are powered by back up generators, the pedestrian gates are not essential, and thus only partially powered. So when the power goes out, the gates close, fail safe and the lights come on (essential).
So they were working correctly, as they were designed to work!
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:33 pm
by Toottoot
I havnt seen the generator cubicles. Where abouts are they?
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:54 pm
by nachoman
Cameras are now active... as of 1st May cautions will be issued for one month. As of 1st June expect infringements to be issued... four demerits and around a couple hundred bucks
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 4:25 pm
by phreak
nachoman wrote:Cameras are now active... as of 1st May cautions will be issued for one month. As of 1st June expect infringements to be issued... four demerits and around a couple hundred bucks
is it for jumping the crossing during red lights? or going around the boom gates whilst they are down?