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treeny wrote:thanks fastlane. i thought the new equivalent of them might have been the 2.4 and 3.4.

what about the HRT, is that still around or has that been replaced by an HSR too?

i have heard those brigades you mentioned calling in as HSR-??. does that mean they have been renamed or are they new appliances?

My bad.. it's a HSR if they have Hazmat, Structural and Rescue gear on-board. Minus any of those, its just a 2.4 or 3.4..

The HRT got retired a few years ago.. they have a few Medium Pumps with extra gear on-board now (Called MPHR's) instead of just a single heavy rescue appliance.

Thanks heaps

Fastlane wrote:

treeny wrote:
Old pictures and appliances... Medium Tanker was renamed 2.4U some years ago, although the name gets interchanged regularly. You'll also hear the GPA's referred to as 2.4U or 3.4U depending on how much water they carry. These trucks are still about, in the metro area they are at Mundaring, Armadale 2nd and Rockingham 2nd. The new 'build' of this appliance is the HSR, or Hazmat Structural Rescue appliance.

Fastlane,

The older versions of the GPA have been rebadged as HSR and are completely different to a 2.4U or 3.4U .

HRT = Heavy Rescue Tender.

Bomber is correct. It seems FESA forgot about the GPAs (eg Williams and Dumbleyung) when they planned replacements for the Light Pumpers. Hopefully they get looked at soon as they're well past their use by date.

I saw a UWA LT with reds and blues today at the Harry Waring Marsupial Reserve. Does anyone know how many they have like this?

as far as i know just the one, and i think its manned by members of the South Coogee BFB.
or someone in the brigade is involved with it.it only goes to fires encroaching on the UWA reserve and is reffered to in the ICVs down here as the university LT
have only seen it at one incident in the past 3-4 years.

im pretty sure its a ford courier with a slip on bell firefighter
hope this helps

chrissss wrote:as far as i know just the one, and i think its manned by members of the South Coogee BFB.
or someone in the brigade is involved with it.it only goes to fires encroaching on the UWA reserve and is reffered to in the ICVs down here as the university LT
have only seen it at one incident in the past 3-4 years.

im pretty sure its a ford courier with a slip on bell firefighter
hope this helps

Yeah it looked like a something similar to a courier with a slip on.

Does every apliance have a light tanker?
ie. (Fremantle 1st, 2nd, Fremantle 1st LT, 2nd LT)
Or do some stations have 2 or 3 LT's to go with their MP/MPHR

All single appliance outstations have a lt. 2 pump stations such as Freo,welshpool etc have 1 full time and during summer may have a second one to go behind the 2nd pump. This summer as well stations such as midland have extra LTs on station which have been manned by extra staff when they havent been required elswhere.

Hi,
When the Pump is running on an appliance I notice a constant run of water from below the truck. Why does it do this please? Is it part of a pressure release or just faulty seals?

Also, what is Operation Renwick focussing on? Firebugs?
Ta

If there's a constant run of water from under the appliance it means that the tank is full and is overflowing.... either the pump output isn't keeping up with the in-flowing water or it's not engaged.

Hope that helps.

WPXZBP wrote:If there's a constant run of water from under the appliance it means that the tank is full and is overflowing.... either the pump output isn't keeping up with the in-flowing water or it's not engaged.

Hope that helps.

or they have a delivery cracked open so theres a constant flow of water through the pump to prevent overheating if someone shuts down a branch.

WPXZBP wrote:If there's a constant run of water from under the appliance it means that the tank is full and is overflowing.... either the pump output isn't keeping up with the in-flowing water or it's not engaged.

Hope that helps.

Thats right if you are filling up, using the hydrant inlet or switching over from tank, to the hydrant, there will be water coming out the bottom, purely tank overflow. But, on the Scania pumps there is a constant flow (very small compared to the over flow) that as fastlane as said prevents from over heating. The mazda's don't do it thus that is why you must crack one of the deliveries when the PTO is engaged and when you are not pumping water to stop the pump over heating.

ace of spades wrote: But, on the Scania pumps there is a constant flow (very small compared to the over flow) that as fastlane as said prevents from over heating. The mazda's don't do it thus that is why you must crack one of the deliveries when the PTO is engaged and when you are not pumping water to stop the pump over heating.

Ours (ex DEC gang trucks and HDs) have a recirc valve behind the pump near the tank for this.

Guess BFS might have something similar.

dlcat1 wrote:

ace of spades wrote: But, on the Scania pumps there is a constant flow (very small compared to the over flow) that as fastlane as said prevents from over heating. The mazda's don't do it thus that is why you must crack one of the deliveries when the PTO is engaged and when you are not pumping water to stop the pump over heating.

Ours (ex DEC gang trucks and HDs) have a recirc valve behind the pump near the tank for this.

Guess BFS might have something similar.

Only good if you are using water from the tank though (as it recircs into the tank). If you are using a hydrant it'll result in you overflowing your tank (much more water than cracking open a delivery or the flow ace of spades talks about)