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written_ficton wrote:it increases them? Huh?

yes, according to the research people spend more time looking for them, rather than concentrating on the road

I can hardly doubt that statement. Do you have any kind of material that backs up your claim?

written_ficton wrote:I can hardly doubt that statement.

Good for you.

written_ficton wrote: Do you have any kind of material that backs up your claim?

Yes you can use Google and look it up.

It was on the news some time ago, and I CBF looking it up for you.

AO11912 wrote:

written_ficton wrote:I can hardly doubt that statement.

Good for you.

written_ficton wrote: Do you have any kind of material that backs up your claim?

Yes you can use Google and look it up.

It was on the news some time ago, and I CBF looking it up for you.

I would be interested to read your research AO11912 as in contrast the Office of Road Safety says that:

Since their introduction, research has shown that speed cameras are highly effective in slowing motorists down and reducing crashes.

(http://www.ors.wa.gov.au/TopicsRoadSafe ... meras.aspx)

Can you please post a link to your source when you CBF?

In my own experience I find I'm glancing down at the speedo more than I really think I should...

vk6hgr wrote:In my own experience I find I'm glancing down at the speedo more than I really think I should...

agreed, and particulary with drivers on boarder line confidence/skill/experience this increased pressure to constantly check their speed detracts from watching other road users, just my opinion though

new fixed speed/red light camera installed on the corner of armadale and nicholson rds, forrestdale (facing east) currently being installed today with trials about to start soon.

Personally I've never really felt the need to check my speedo constantly. I know what 60 / 70 / 80 km/hr "feels like", and can generally get to within 4 or 5 km/hr of that without looking at the speedo at all.

Of course if I'm driving a different car, it takes a while to get the "feel" of the different speeds, and I find I need to check the speedo more often.

I just use cruise control wherever I go.

Obviously it's not much good down St Georges Tce but no issues on most major roads.

The thing is 4/5ks an hr is still enough to get pinged for, even it is only $75

Then aim for 4-5 under. Its a limit, not what you must do except on freeways/highways.

And remember most speedo's overcompensate by a few k's as well (best to check instead of guessing though) so those extra couple you go over usually don't matter.

Isn't the design standard for error 10%? ie so you need to be doing say 89kph to get done instead 88kph which is the error? I am happy to be corrected.

The ADR states your speedo can be out by 10% yes. I don't think this relates to speed cameras having to be set 10% above the speed limit to account for these errors though (although I'm not sure on that).

Generally speedo's are set up to 10% lower than real ground speed though.

bakerboy wrote:The thing is 4/5ks an hr is still enough to get pinged for, even it is only $75

Well, I've not had a speeding fine (or anything else for that matter) for over ten years, so my speed estimation must be better than a camera's tolerance

written_ficton wrote:it increases them? Huh?

yes, put simply.

i've searched around and will put some more effort into finding the study, but basically a researcher fitted a system that tracked eye movement of drivers and found that newer drivers, ones who got their licence after the introduction of roadside speed cameras, spent quite a significant amount of time watching the side of the road rather than straight ahead, as opposed to a group who had held their licenses for longer and whose eyes scanned the whole road.
i cant be sure of percentages, but i recall some of the guys tested actually spent more time looking for speed cameras than looking ahead.

basically we have trained a generation to not pay attention to what's important.