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Re: d-star

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:16 pm
by Zebedee
vk6ngs wrote:It was done on purpose it wasnt a mistake Doug,2 callsigns have been used by pirates on D-star they whent as far as to register those callsigns with the gateway,the ppl who,s callsigns have been used had no clue,they have no D-star radio,s and have never had them.
Well then the story gets even more interesting if that is indeed the case. I just had a quick check of what callsigns are registered by logging into the gateway and the callsign mentioned on Sunday isn't listed, so I can only assume that the system admins have deleted the registration (bravo! :) )

I didn't realise that they'd gone so far as to register the callsign for gateway access since that wouldn't be required to just have a callsign show up on the "recently heard" list.

Whoever's monkeying around like this needs to be pulled into line quick-smart. It's not funny, it's not clever, and it's certainly not in the spirit of amateur radio.
vk6ngs wrote:Pirates will spend what it takes i had a UHF cber offer me $1000 for a tokyo hy power 70cm amp,i told to get %#%#%#.That shows u what they will spend.
Wow. Shows what lengths some people will go to I guess. But I couldn't imagine TOO many people wanting to part with that amount of cash, not if they were just wanting to cause mischief. But I guess there'll always be some with more money than brains ;)
You can get on D-star for $500 which isnt alot $$.
Bugger - mine cost me more than that! Mind you it was the radio with the DSTAR chip already installed, not an expansion to an existing radio which admittedly would be cheaper.

d-star

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:25 pm
by vk6ngs
The callsigns have been removed from the gateway registration page,thats what Rob and i have been talking about it being easy to register,its all done on a honesty system there are no real checks,you email a callsign to them with your name,wich u can get of ACMA site,they email you back saying approved,you know as your registered yourself Doug.Cheers Grant vk6ngs

Re: d-star

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:31 pm
by Zebedee
vk6ngs wrote:The callsigns have been removed from the gateway registration page,thats what Rob and i have been talking about it being easy to register,its all done on a honesty system there are no real checks,you email a callsign to them with your name,wich u can get of ACMA site,they email you back saying approved,you know as your registered yourself Doug.Cheers Grant vk6ngs
Yep ... and I managed to stuff that up too and made a typo in my callsign {sigh} :)

Luckily some eagle-eye spotted it and I could correct it before I embarrassed myself too badly.

I wonder what's being done elsewhere in the world with regards to DSTAR gateway registrations, is it all a "gentleman's agreement" in the spirit of amateur radio, or is there some kind of verification required as per Echolink?

That might be a good starting point, to find out what is current best practice around the world for gateway registration, and to go from there.

Re: d-star

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:46 pm
by robbage
Zebedee wrote:
vk6ngs wrote:Pirates will spend what it takes i had a UHF cber offer me $1000 for a tokyo hy power 70cm amp,i told to get %#%#%#.That shows u what they will spend.
Wow. Shows what lengths some people will go to I guess. But I couldn't imagine TOO many people wanting to part with that amount of cash, not if they were just wanting to cause mischief. But I guess there'll always be some with more money than brains ;)
Some CBers just want the extra power (legal or not) rather than causing mischief. There are plenty operating 50w 70cm rigs illegally expanded to 477MHz. "But we're not transmitting more than 5 watts!" Porcine Aviation.

Re: d-star

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:16 pm
by VK6ZMS
vk6ngs wrote:No it doesnt log serial number,you have to put your callsign into radio and do few other things and your done,but who ever used cliffs callsign would have to get a email from D-STAR registration,so they would know the email address of the person that used his call.Cheers Grant vk6ngs
You don't need to be registered on the gateway to use d-star locally.

Re: d-star

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:21 pm
by VK6ZMS
Zebedee wrote:
Well then the story gets even more interesting if that is indeed the case. I just had a quick check of what callsigns are registered by logging into the gateway and the callsign mentioned on Sunday isn't listed, so I can only assume that the system admins have deleted the registration (bravo! :) )
EDIT
oops wrong info

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:23 pm
by robbage
So you can have half a dozen people all using the same call-sign?

D-star

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:25 pm
by vk6ngs
We are talking about the 2 callsigns that were registered to use the gateway without the owners of those callsigns knowing,callsigns have since been taken of the gateway register.Cheers Grant vk6ngs

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:29 pm
by VK6ZMS
robbage wrote:So you can have half a dozen people all using the same call-sign?
I don't know how it would go if they all spoke at once, but a pirate could do that.

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:55 pm
by Zebedee
Two radios, both with the same callsign, on the same repeater would probably give it a serious case of indigestion ;)

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:04 pm
by robbage
Probably the end of the world as we know it. I hate it when that happens

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:03 pm
by vk6hgr
robbage wrote:Probably the end of the world as we know it. I hate it when that happens
Argh. Again!!?!

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:33 pm
by Tyranus
Well if people stop typing Google in Google then it wouldn't happen so often now would it!

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:18 pm
by Bonez
warsug

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:18 pm
by Bonez
Yep, we're still here. Sorry, just had to check if anything would happen!