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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:49 pm
by jmmw
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:14 pm
by JPhillips
Markmywords wrote:Fastlane wrote:Markmywords wrote:Seems like Mr Carpeneter in the west the other day took a back step with going the heavy penalities for those assualting police.
I do agree that all penalties should be firm across the board
It shouldn't be limited to Police. Should apply to any public officer, so including ambos, fireys, rangers etc..
Totally agree !!!
Should apply to any of those as mentioned

above
In one sense if they all have extra penalities if you assult them, how bout the rest of us public? Why dont they increase it in all cases
Edit: Not saying that i dont agree with what was said in the quote though
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:04 pm
by AV201
Toottoot wrote:slipknot wrote:Toottoot wrote:Yes definitely. Also for playworth I wish 100% in english grammar course.

Dont worry playworth, Toottoot is just trying to raise his popularity by insulting people.
Sorry playworth I didn't mean it as an insult, hence the

. I thought that had been made clear in another thread somewhere....
Notwithstanding this, some people are very fortunate to have been born in this country as they would now not be allowed through immigration without an adequate command of the Queen's English.
Sorry naaaah!

i say good onya Toottoot
In regards to the charges, I agree, it should be (common sence really) that if you do something like that then it is dealt harshly! enough bloody bullshitting around and easy coppin out of situations..to minimise people from doing the wrong thing we need to impliment tougher penalties!
Hope ya get better to mate! speedy recovery to you
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:08 pm
by Tyranus
Second man charged over assault on policeman Matthew Butcher
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0 ... 61,00.html
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:27 pm
by Panache
I agree that one must look at the root of the problem rather than dealing with the after fact / after mathe. I realise that it is almost impossible to do this with all crime. But these violent crimes that occur in a split second leave the victim with a lifetime of disability/ wounds / scars, both mental and physical.
On and on we go down the line how it affects the victim, their family, on and on...... Thank fully I have not been subject to such crime.
Yes our prisons are full to the brim ( I know this as I have a friend in prison who deserves to be there for his bad behaviour - but what led him to behave this way?)
There is a generation or 2 perhaps that have developed a "Cop - Out" pardon the pun for their bad behaviour. They truly believe in

blaming everyone but themselves is acceptable for their life and it's failure to meet their ideals. I am just totally over it - hear it every day, sick to death of it.
I don't have the answer - but I hope that forums of this nature continue to raise these hardline issues and questions. Only through consistent discussion will our community and it's people eventually stand up and tell our Pollies we are sick of it. Enough is Enough.
I don't wish to single out or highlight any one issue but
I personally feel that the Drug & Alcohol epidemic we are "not" dealing with well or at all, has alot to answer for. Back to the "I must be held responsible for my own actions" scenario. This come back to Community, Pollies, laws, courts on and on.....
I'm ranting now...... I'm new to this site.... I've read the site for possibly two years now but never became a forum member. Nows the time.
Hi everyone - All Public Service Officers who contribute - you are invaluable members of our community. Top Effort.
I'm in Private Enterprise, Building Industry and I'm a female.
Talk soon
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:44 pm
by WPXZBP
Panache wrote:There is a generation or 2 perhaps that have developed a "Cop - Out" pardon the pun for their bad behaviour. They truly believe in

blaming everyone but themselves is acceptable for their life and it's failure to meet their ideals. I am just totally over it - hear it every day, sick to death of it.
I know all too well what you are saying. I deal with it every working day. *sigh*
Good to see you contributing. Welcome to the site.

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:01 pm
by Ausrob
Fastlane wrote:Markmywords wrote:Seems like Mr Carpeneter in the west the other day took a back step with going the heavy penalities for those assualting police.
I do agree that all penalties should be firm across the board
It shouldn't be limited to Police. Should apply to any public officer, so including ambos, fireys, rangers etc..
It should apply to the general public. The reason why people reoffend here is because of the lax approach to sentencing. If you can murder someone and get out after 10 years it tells you theirs a problem with the system.
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:57 pm
by Markmywords
Reading the west today. He is still in a coma.
And after a couple of serious assaults last night in perth.
We need a serious review off sentancing whos hands are tied and why so.
No good if the police are doing the best they can do get a conviction then to have someone walk out with a 12 month community based order because he has a few screws lose.
(In the west last week if you can recall the 2 officers attacked at herdsman lake)
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:05 pm
by uneekwahn
I hope the guy he tasered who had recently had a heart operation and suffered a heart attack after the tasering is ok.
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:27 pm
by yorky
I thought it was found that the Tazer didn't go off?
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:51 pm
by playworth
yeah,it said that he shot the taser but it didnt go off and then when POI hitbutted officer butcher.

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:15 pm
by Markmywords
See the POI was refused bail today and that the officer is slowly coming out of his induced coma but they said it seems like he is going to have some form off permanent brain damage.
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:19 am
by westernwedgey
Markmywords wrote:seems like he is going to have some form off permanent brain damage.
Unfortunately he may not be able to speak again and apparently he will be paralysed down one side of his body, thereby wheelchair bound for life.
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:09 am
by Toottoot
westernwedgey wrote:Markmywords wrote:seems like he is going to have some form off permanent brain damage.
Unfortunately he may not be able to speak again and apparently he will be paralysed down one side of his body, thereby wheelchair bound for life.
According to the ABC website that was Constable Barry Butcher, not Matthew Butcher.
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:17 am
by yorky
Sounds like they got his name wrong.
Front page of The West >
http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx? ... entID=8876 yesterday