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At the Porongurup fires they were red & orange. Certainly not crimson.

Toottoot wrote:I would have thought they didnt need the red lights. There is not much difference in their role to the secureforce bus security guards surely? Would the roughest train stations be any more dangerous than the roughest bus stations if left unpatrolled?

It would appear to be a political thing to appease the voters who cry about violence on the trains. If there was big trouble surely the police would need to attend anyhow. Didnt a transit guard get bashed near the horeshoe bridge a while ago and it was in all the media and the police ended up handling it anyway.

SecureForce are a private security company with a security contract while the Transit Guards/Railwail Patrol are government employees with similar powers to Police. eg. powers of arrest on railway property (these powers extend outside of railway property for special constables). Supervisors amongst the Transit Guard outfit have access to VKI, and any Transit Guard can request a name and address check to confirm identity on trains, and can arrest for providing false details. The higher up the chain you go the more authority the guard has.

With regards to the fight on the horse shoe bridge, it was Transit Guards who were involved and they deployed batons and made the arrests against the offenders involved. They transported the offenders involved to the Police lock-up. The cage on the back of the wagon gets used for offenders who have been arrested (obviously!)

Transit Guards are totally different to the bus guards employed by SecureFarce. The training program is a big difference to start with. SecureFarce clearly don't provide training to their bogans.

BLiNG wrote:

Toottoot wrote:I would have thought they didnt need the red lights. There is not much difference in their role to the secureforce bus security guards surely? Would the roughest train stations be any more dangerous than the roughest bus stations if left unpatrolled?

It would appear to be a political thing to appease the voters who cry about violence on the trains. If there was big trouble surely the police would need to attend anyhow. Didnt a transit guard get bashed near the horeshoe bridge a while ago and it was in all the media and the police ended up handling it anyway.

SecureForce are a private security company with a security contract while the Transit Guards/Railwail Patrol are government employees with similar powers to Police. eg. powers of arrest on railway property (these powers extend outside of railway property for special constables). Supervisors amongst the Transit Guard outfit have access to VKI, and any Transit Guard can request a name and address check to confirm identity on trains, and can arrest for providing false details. The higher up the chain you go the more authority the guard has.

With regards to the fight on the horse shoe bridge, it was Transit Guards who were involved and they deployed batons and made the arrests against the offenders involved. They transported the offenders involved to the Police lock-up. The cage on the back of the wagon gets used for offenders who have been arrested (obviously!)

Transit Guards are totally different to the bus guards employed by SecureFarce. The training program is a big difference to start with. SecureFarce clearly don't provide training to their bogans.

What would be the reason that trains need quasi-police officers to patrol them when buses only need bogans? Is there a difference in the constitution of trouble makers that choose to disrupt train passengers than those who prefer to target bus passengers?

I saw the kings park board LT on sunday that had a red/blue lightbar with a siren who does that come under ?

It would be run by the Botanic Gardens and Parks Authority (BGPA) and would have permission to use L&S from DPI.