WA Radio Scanner Users' Group

MADNESS ! That would be insain ...

Millsy wrote:MADNESS ! That would be insain ...

vk6hgr wrote:

Read the post before

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JG-103 wrote:P.s Millsy, me and chris already have a print out given to us by the brigade, chris should scan it and put it up.

JG, A73 eh ?

That's my old stomping ground.. " Mad dog's "

Don't you guys have the code list as a laminate on your passenger sunvisor ?

- Chris
' The Townies '

Sup Chriso, yeah, but we got them updated to accomadate the new frequencies we run on now. Havin fun with the townies???

Hey guys can you please explain the alarm calls a bit more? ive been trying to figure it out and am a bit confused about what all the alarm calls mean? Are the alarms issued by the first crew onsite that access the situation or are they issued by the radio dispatcher?

thanks in advance

HEKTIK wrote:Hey guys can you please explain the alarm calls a bit more? ive been trying to figure it out and am a bit confused about what all the alarm calls mean? Are the alarms issued by the first crew onsite that access the situation or are they issued by the radio dispatcher?

thanks in advance

The alarm codes are called in by the crew that arrives at the incident first as they are the ones on the ground.

HEKTIK wrote:Hey guys can you please explain the alarm calls a bit more? ive been trying to figure it out and am a bit confused about what all the alarm calls mean? Are the alarms issued by the first crew onsite that access the situation or are they issued by the radio dispatcher?

thanks in advance

Hope this helps -

4-4 - No smoke sighted & crew arrived at scene
6-6 - Smoke has been sighted, Fire Crews investigating and calling it a 1st Alarm - being a smallish fire (eg Small scrub or bin fire)

8-8 - Arrived at scene - Flames can be clearly seen - crew at scene requesting additional units to assist - Second Alarm Fire - House Fires etc

3-4th Alarm Fires are usually for Major Fires such as Bush Fires, Major Structural Damage - like WA Salvage last year - where alot of units are required.

(I'm no fire fighter - but thought I'd help out just abit - and sure someone will definatley correct me if im wrong.)

G

gkoutlis wrote:

HEKTIK wrote:Hey guys can you please explain the alarm calls a bit more? ive been trying to figure it out and am a bit confused about what all the alarm calls mean? Are the alarms issued by the first crew onsite that access the situation or are they issued by the radio dispatcher?

thanks in advance

Hope this helps -

4-4 - No smoke sighted & crew arrived at scene
6-6 - Smoke has been sighted, Fire Crews investigating and calling it a 1st Alarm - being a smallish fire (eg Small scrub or bin fire)

8-8 - Arrived at scene - Flames can be clearly seen - crew at scene requesting additional units to assist - Second Alarm Fire - House Fires etc

Almost Mr G..

44 = no sign of reported incident
66 = reported incident found and as described
88 = reported incident found and of major nature

(or thereabouts - I'm sure firefly will correct me if necessary ) - have to remember these are also used for incidents besides fire!

These codes are only used by the first crew/appliance that arrives.

Since this thread has been opened again, the alarm classifications depend upon the type of incident, ie, Bush Fire, Rescue, Property Fire, Hazmat etc. They determine which appliances and resources are mobilised and/or notified of an incident. Basically, the higher the alarm number, 1st, 2nd 3rd etc, the more appliances required. There is a matrix for the various incident types and alarm level, to guide the ComCen in mobilising resources, based on the classification given by the Incident Controller.

1st alarm is generally 1 or 2 pumpers or 2.4/3.4 tankers.
2nd alarm usually 2-4 depending on incident type
3rd usually 4 or more, as well as District Managers, Incident Control Vehicle and other support.

Above third is generally very big, with multiple appliances, including specialist and support vehicles and personnel.

Arrival codes have been debated, but are "4 4" (Four Four), 6 6, and 8 8.
4 4 indicates that the incident/fire reported cannot be located or seen, and crews are investigating further.

6 6 indicates that the incident has been located, and resources currently being mobilised can deal with the incident. This may include additional resources requested by the IC

8 8 indicates that the incident has been located, and urgent assistance is required. IC must classify incident and/or request specific resources immediately.

Tankers names DO include the "point" regardless of whether you think it sounds silly.


If the SOP that forum members are viewing states differtly, then instead of trying to be smart or witty, simply identify the SOP you are referring to, and remember that there are still different SOPs for FRS and BFS in some circumstances, and there are many versions (often old) floating around stations. Not everyone has access to the Intranet.

kylep wrote:If the SOP that forum members are viewing states differtly, then instead of trying to be smart or witty, simply identify the SOP you are referring to, and remember that there are still different SOPs for FRS and BFS in some circumstances, and there are many versions (often old) floating around stations. Not everyone has access to the Intranet.

Ok, what was the reason for getting all shirty here?? Was it necessary? This information IS after all for the lay-person..

Not geting shirty, just making a suggestion. The other thing to remember for all is that it is information for scanner listeners, not for firefighters. No point debating the exact wording of the SOP, rather give the intent or idea of such a radio transmission. Seemed as though people were getting overly concerned about SOP's.

Fastlane wrote:

gkoutlis wrote:

HEKTIK wrote:Hey guys can you please explain the alarm calls a bit more? ive been trying to figure it out and am a bit confused about what all the alarm calls mean? Are the alarms issued by the first crew onsite that access the situation or are they issued by the radio dispatcher?

thanks in advance

Hope this helps -

4-4 - No smoke sighted & crew arrived at scene
6-6 - Smoke has been sighted, Fire Crews investigating and calling it a 1st Alarm - being a smallish fire (eg Small scrub or bin fire)

8-8 - Arrived at scene - Flames can be clearly seen - crew at scene requesting additional units to assist - Second Alarm Fire - House Fires etc

Almost Mr G..

44 = no sign of reported incident
66 = reported incident found and as described
88 = reported incident found and of major nature

(or thereabouts - I'm sure firefly will correct me if necessary ) - have to remember these are also used for incidents besides fire!

These codes are only used by the first crew/appliance that arrives.

To Fastlane, and all who replied - Thanks for correcting me on the info - I knew I wasn't too far off the mark

Its good to know we have the most correct definitions now -

Thankyou to all -
G