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gkoutlis wrote:Plane Crash in Serpintine...

Double fatal - http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx? ... tID=110346

Deepest sympathy's to the families involved.
G

the aircraft is reportedly an RV-6, an experimental homebuild aircraft. our school owns an RV-6a (the tricycle wheel version)... fairly unstable aircraft, but there is a high possibility of a wing drop if it stalls, putting the aircraft into a spin.

not necicerally what happened, but could have something to do with it. ill keep an eye on the ATSB site, and post when a report is released

Oh oh. A friend of mine built an RV-6. Any more details will be appreciated when they are released.
(He would be middle aged)

One of the Dash8 pilots at Skippers has a RV6 aswell.
Also one of the NJS 146 drivers built his own Europa.

It's a Thorp T-18 gents - VH-IFM... ex South Australia

RIP Crew...

Nafenn wrote:the aircraft is reportedly an RV-6, an experimental homebuild aircraft. our school owns an RV-6a (the tricycle wheel version)... fairly unstable aircraft, but there is a high possibility of a wing drop if it stalls, putting the aircraft into a spin

And this has what to do with the crash? I think you will find most aircraft once they drop a wing will enter into an incipient spin or spiral dive regardless of whether the aircraft is stable or not...

Cheers, CC

ConstableCare wrote:

Nafenn wrote:the aircraft is reportedly an RV-6, an experimental homebuild aircraft. our school owns an RV-6a (the tricycle wheel version)... fairly unstable aircraft, but there is a high possibility of a wing drop if it stalls, putting the aircraft into a spin

And this has what to do with the crash? I think you will find most aircraft once they drop a wing will enter into an incipient spin or spiral dive regardless of whether the aircraft is stable or not...

Cheers, CC

Spiral dives and Spins are very different, i could list all the characteristics of each, but i would burn out my fingers.

I was simply stating that this could have been the cause of the crash. in an unstable aircraft like an RV-6, spins are not very easy to recover from, especially if the wrong action is taken (eg: tries to recover from a spiral dive, rather than a spin, or vice versa)

Nafenn wrote:

ConstableCare wrote:

Nafenn wrote:the aircraft is reportedly an RV-6, an experimental homebuild aircraft. our school owns an RV-6a (the tricycle wheel version)... fairly unstable aircraft, but there is a high possibility of a wing drop if it stalls, putting the aircraft into a spin

And this has what to do with the crash? I think you will find most aircraft once they drop a wing will enter into an incipient spin or spiral dive regardless of whether the aircraft is stable or not...

Cheers, CC

Spiral dives and Spins are very different, i could list all the characteristics of each, but i would burn out my fingers.

I was simply stating that this could have been the cause of the crash. in an unstable aircraft like an RV-6, spins are not very easy to recover from, especially if the wrong action is taken (eg: tries to recover from a spiral dive, rather than a spin, or vice versa)

Im aware of the difference between the two. I think it's best left to the experts to determine the cause don't you?

Qantas A330 blew a starter motor last night, not sure what flight it was, returned to Perth, currently on Bay 56 undergoing repairs

Look out for it on 7 News, their helicopter was hovering low around the airplane in question

gkoutlis wrote:Plane Crash in Serpintine...

Double fatal - http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx? ... tID=110346

Deepest sympathy's to the families involved.
G

Just found out from Ch9 news, One of the pilots, Alan Hayes, was a Skippers Dash8 Pilot, who also owned a home built RV6 VH-LAR coloured purple and green. Deepest condolences to family and friends

numloxx wrote:

gkoutlis wrote:Plane Crash in Serpintine...

Double fatal - http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx? ... tID=110346

Deepest sympathy's to the families involved.
G

Just found out from Ch9 news, One of the pilots, Alan Hayes, was a Skippers Dash8 Pilot, who also owned a home built RV6 VH-LAR coloured purple and green. Deepest condolences to family and friends

7 Said he was a Maroomba Pilot... hmmm

Not sure where he was last at, but he did work for Skippers before.
Might have moved since I last met him.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24 ... 77,00.html

Starter motor sheared off because there was no oil in it

robbage wrote:http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24 ... 77,00.html

Starter motor sheared off because there was no oil in it

no, the starter motor failed to dis engage when fuel was introduced, and the engine began to gain RPM, past the limit of the starter motor, eventually it sheared the shaft, during take off roll the shaft fell out into the engine, put a hole in oil lines, causing the engine oil leak and thus the warning on the ECIAS. thats what the QF LAME told me when i was on the ground yesterday.

MEDIA Vs Some one on the ground talking to the LAME

I know who i would belive

AO11912 wrote:

robbage wrote:http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24 ... 77,00.html

Starter motor sheared off because there was no oil in it

no, the starter motor failed to dis engage when fuel was introduced, and the engine began to gain RPM, past the limit of the starter motor, eventually it sheared the shaft, during take off roll the shaft fell out into the engine, put a hole in oil lines, causing the engine oil leak and thus the warning on the ECIAS. thats what the QF LAME told me when i was on the ground yesterday.

MEDIA Vs Some one on the ground talking to the LAME

I know who i would belive

Aviation sources told Fairfax the engine starter motor sheared off because no oil had been put into the motor after its overhaul.

People who think they know about aviation, should be left alone

written_ficton wrote:

AO11912 wrote:

robbage wrote:http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24 ... 77,00.html

Starter motor sheared off because there was no oil in it

no, the starter motor failed to dis engage when fuel was introduced, and the engine began to gain RPM, past the limit of the starter motor, eventually it sheared the shaft, during take off roll the shaft fell out into the engine, put a hole in oil lines, causing the engine oil leak and thus the warning on the ECIAS. thats what the QF LAME told me when i was on the ground yesterday.

MEDIA Vs Some one on the ground talking to the LAME

I know who i would belive

Aviation sources told Fairfax the engine starter motor sheared off because no oil had been put into the motor after its overhaul.

People who think they know about aviation, should be left alone

I dont understand what your trying to say. are you implying that i should be left alone, i was the one in direct contact with the LAME,