Packet

slipknot · Post by **slipknot** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:45 pm

Hi Crew.
Does anyone know how to turn off Packet/Data mode on a
Yeasu FT-7800?
My screen shows "9600" data mode on my screen.

Post by **Zebedee** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:01 pm

I should do - I have one at home and one in the car.

Wonder if the manual's in the car anywhere... it used to be!

Hang ten while I go see if I can dig it out

Post by **Zebedee** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:19 pm

OK this is copied from the FT-7800's manual:

Menu #26 [PKT.SPD]

Function: Sets the transceiverâ€™s circuitry for the Packet baud rate to be used.
Available Values: 1200bps/9600bps
Default: 1200bps

I assume that the bit I've circled in red is what's lit up on your display.

Changing the packet mode back to 1200 bps by going into the menu system and changint "PKT.SPD" back to 1200 will probably make that go away. That's my guess...

slipknot · Post by **slipknot** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:20 pm

Ahh there we go , thanks doug!

Post by **VK6ZMS** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:48 pm

Don't forget it is ilegal to own a radio you don't have a licence for:

Radio comms act 1992

47 Unlawful possession of radiocommunications devices
(1) Subject to section 49, a person must not have a
radiocommunications device in his or her possession for the
purpose of operating the device otherwise than as authorised by:
(a) a spectrum licence; or
(b) an apparatus licence; or
(c) a class licence.

Penalty:
(a) if the radiocommunications device is a radiocommunications
transmitter:
(i) if the offender is an individualâ€”imprisonment for 2
years; or
(ii) otherwiseâ€”1,500 penalty units; or
(b) if the radiocommunications device is not a
radiocommunications transmitterâ€”20 penalty units.
(2) Subsection (1) does not apply if the person has a reasonable
excuse.
Note: A defendant bears an evidential burden in relation to the matter in
subsection (2) (see subsection 13.3(3) of the Criminal Code).

Section 49

(3) A reference in this Division to a person having a
radiocommunications device in his or her possession includes a
reference to the person having it under control in any place
whatever, whether for the use or benefit of that person or another
person, and although another person has the actual possession or
custody of it.

Post by **robbage** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:46 pm

Maybe they should also make it an offence to sell them to the unlicenced. It could prevent the Clinically Braindead we've been hearing lately on 2m. Prestige certainly didn't seem to care either way.

Blinky · Post by **Blinky** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:19 pm

robbage wrote:Maybe they should also make it an offence to sell them to the unlicenced. It could prevent the Clinically Braindead we've been hearing lately on 2m. Prestige certainly didn't seem to care either way.

I don't think anything would stop the clinically braindead you refer to.

(ii) otherwiseâ€”1,500 penalty units; or
(b) if the radiocommunications device is not a
radiocommunications transmitterâ€”20 penalty units.

I was interested to read the penalties... What is a "penalty unit" ? Dollars?

You would have to be very unlucky to be charged for owning a radiocommunication device unless transmitting with it without a license. I wonder if the fact someone is studying for a license is a reasonable excuse to own such a device. It seems a reasonable excuse to me.

Hey slipknot any idea when you plan to take the test? Good luck with your studies.

slipknot · Post by **slipknot** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:04 am

Already have my licence

Thanks anyway.

ConstableCare · Post by **ConstableCare** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:36 am

Blinky wrote:I was interested to read the penalties... What is a "penalty unit" ? Dollars?

A "Penalty Unit" equates to a Dollar Value. Currently 1 Penalty Unit = $110.00. The legislation is written this way so that it doesn't not have to be continually updated as the Penalty Unit value increases.

Cheers, CC

slipknot · Post by **slipknot** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:14 am

I Just can understand why there are idiots on CB but then when some of these idiots purchase an ameteur radio from a Dealer and then come on the to ameture bands and be stupid to "nice people" (vk6 operators) is just rediculus, hence risk being caught. From what iv'e heard, ACMA can hunt down a Ameteur pest iin 2 hours.

ConstableCare · Post by **ConstableCare** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:17 am

slipknot wrote:...ameteur radio....ameture bands... .

Surely they didn't teach you this at "Foundation School"??

slipknot wrote:From what iv'e heard, ACMA can hunt down a Ameteur pest iin 2 hours.

They have bigger fish to fry son!

slipknot · Post by **slipknot** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:37 am

lol, well I was tought this but,
As the licence says , amateur radio operators are only allowed to communicate with other licenced amature operators. Meaning if you hear a drop kick, then you can not communicate with them, you cant tell them "go away, we dwont like u, you are not allowed to be here, onley wee are, this is ow club an if you don go awaya then wew will tel on u to der awtralian comunicateons afority and dey will get vewy mad at you!"

Thats how a child would say it.

ConstableCare · Post by **ConstableCare** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:52 am

slipknot wrote:lol, well I was tought this but,
As the licence says , amateur radio operators are only allowed to communicate with other licenced amature operators. Meaning if you hear a drop kick, then you can not communicate with them, you cant tell them "go away, we dwont like u, you are not allowed to be here, onley wee are, this is ow club an if you don go awaya then wew will tel on u to der awtralian comunicateons afority and dey will get vewy mad at you!"

Thats how a child would say it.

24/25 for your exam - Learn to spell Amateur correctly

Post by **Zebedee** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:30 pm

...a person must not have a radiocommunications device in his or her possession for the purpose of operating the device...

and

A reference in this Division to a person having a radiocommunications device in his or her possession includes a reference to the person having it under control in any place whatever, whether for the use or benefit of that person or another person, and although another person has the actual possession or custody of it.

My "bush lawyer's" opinion here is that the key words are "for the purpose of operating the device" - which I'm interpreting "operating" to mean "transmitting", since we all know that it's perfectly legal to listen to anything at all on any radio frequency so long as it's not a telephone call.

On those assumptions, I don't think that ACMA would be terribly interested in mounting a prosecution on someone who is just using an amateur radio as a receiver only.

I have a Yaesu FT-7800 in the car - which is not my car, it belongs to my employer. And while it almost never happens, it's technically possible that someone else from work may sometimes borrow the car to run errands. Which then means that they would then be "in posession" of an amateur radio that they have no licence or authority to operate.

So ... I fix that by unplugging and removing the microphone

That way, even if they can figure out which is the ON button (yes, they're all that technically challenged

), they still can't "operate" or transmit with it, as there's no means to do so if there's no microphone.

Just my 2c worth of non-lawyer's opinion

Post by **VK6ZMS** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:38 pm

From the Radcom act again:

Without limiting section 47, a person is taken, for the purposes of
that section, to have a radiocommunications device in his or her
possession for the purpose of operation if it is in his or her
possession, otherwise than for the purpose of supply to another
person, and can be operated merely by doing one or more of the
following:
(a) connecting the device to an electric power supply by means
of an electric plug or other electrical connection;
(b) connecting a microphone to the device by inserting a
microphone plug into the device;
(c) switching on the device;
(d) switching on any other equipment relevant to the deviceâ€™s
operation;
(e) adjusting settings by manipulating the deviceâ€™s external
switches, dials or other controls;
(f) connecting the device to an antenna.
(2) Subsection (1) only applies in the absence of any evidence to the
contrary.