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Re: Transperth Security and Transit Officers

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:43 am
by Fireguard
bawds25 wrote:As far as Wilson is concerned, officers are and have always been hired under the job title of "Transit Officer"
http://www.wilsonsecurity.com.au/go/emp ... 92E6602A7A

Location: Australia, WA
Division: Wilson Security
Closing Date: Sunday 31 January, 2010
Job Description: Transperth Security Officers..

Re: Transperth Security and Transit Officers

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 2:35 am
by bawds25
...not to refer to their officers as Transit Officers when dealing with the public...
Public, key word. On my roster it states "Transit Officer" and on my union agreement it states "Transit Officer". In any public forum it will state "Transperth Security Officer".

Anyways, enough of arguing. Merry Christmas to all and let us hope that santa brings us a government employed fully sworn unit of transit officers to work on our bus network :D

Re: Transperth Security and Transit Officers

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:13 pm
by Fitzyyy
Anyone know any of the codes they use? Ive got a few of them here


1/10 phone call
mic 1 Mirrabooka bus station
mic 2 Morley bus station
wiskey 1 Wellington street
72 indigeones offenders

Re: Transperth Security and Transit Officers

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:33 pm
by yorky
Mike 1/2/3, Kilo 1, Wiskey 1 and Juliet 1 are Path Transit supervisors (usually at the major terminus's) . Juliet 6 I believe is a mechanic. None are security officers.

110 is mobile call, not 1/10.
Fitzyyy wrote:72 indigeones offenders
Didn't know this one, thought it would fall under the categories of IC1/2/3 etc. Indigenous would most likely be an IC3.

Re: Transperth Security and Transit Officers

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:38 am
by bawds25
101 - on duty
102 - off duty
103 - start break
104 - end break
105 - leaving site

71 - caucasian
72 - aboriginal
73 -
74 -
75 - other

110 - phone call

mike 1 - morley
mike 2 - mirrabooka

bravo 1 - busport
bravo 2 - booragoon

kilo 1 - kwinana hub

wiskey 1 - wellington street


there are heaps more but cant think of them off the top of my head will get my list and get back to ya.

Re: Transperth Security and Transit Officers

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:17 pm
by written_ficton
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Re: Transperth Security and Transit Officers

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:43 pm
by written_ficton
Edited...

Re: Transperth Security and Transit Officers

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:01 pm
by bawds25
im sure i just covered that... yes, PTA refer to us at Transperth Security. Because we are. I was just pointing out what our employer calls us.

And to your previous comment:
Exactly Fastlane, exactly.

I've dealt with these Wilson security officers twice now and to say I am not at all impressed by what I saw and witnessed with a heavy handed approach that infact inflamed the situation four - fold.
Your completely correct. There are some that should not be working in the job. But its not their fault, its the PTA that has privatised the job and not placed any standards of recruitment on wilson.

But when it comes to things like:
Cant wait to run into you, hope you catch buses


Get a sense of humour.

Re: Transperth Security and Transit Officers

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:01 pm
by singkenten
We'll try again...

Show at least a little bit of respect for the job that people do... If anyone saw page 3 of Saturdays paper you should be able to appreciate what absolute scum exist in society there is. If someone is willing to choose an occupation that most others wouldn't, than who am I or anyone else for that matter in a position to have a crack at them.

Unless you have done the job of riding buses dealing with scum, or dealt with the rubbish that roam our streets at night, please dont make uninformed remarks. Please be assured no job is as simple as what you may think.

Te actions of one employee does not allow poetic lisence to brandish all with the same name, I have seen what I believe to be useless firemen, police officers, transit guards, lawyers, rangers, nurses, etc it doesnt mean they are like that!

Well anyway thats my humble opinion on the matter, so if you are going to voice strong opinions ragging on the job trannos do at least try and include some foundation to it...

Cheers

Re: Transperth Security and Transit Officers

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:05 pm
by Tyranus
better yet, if anyone has a problem with members of a particular service provide feedback to that service about them!

Re: Transperth Security and Transit Officers

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:44 pm
by written_ficton
Singkenten, please don't get me wrong Transperth Security officers do a job that quite frankly many people wouldnt want to touch with a five foot pole. Same goes for firefighters, paramedics, nurses, police officers, rangers etc etc

I've seen and dealt with the 'scum' both during the day and night and know its not at all pretty, sometimes its quite hard and for that you need to think outside the box quickly.

All I am trying to say is everyone goes about their job different way wether right or wrong, it isnt me to judge. Therefore I'll edit my previous posts to reflect this.

BTW, bawds25 I have a sence of humour I just didn't find that particular comment funny, especially considering the job you do.

Regards,


WF

Re: Transperth Security and Transit Officers

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:14 pm
by Cloverfield
singkenten wrote:I am well aware of what the law says, but there is strong case law relating to this, and as such i can guarantee that is how it is applied prima facie...
from the criminal code section 318,

(5) In subsections (2) and (4) —
prescribed circumstances means any of these circumstances —
(a) where the offence is committed under subsection (1)(d) or (e) against a public officer who is —
(i) a police officer; or
(ii) a prison officer as defined in the Prisons Act 1981 section 3(1); or
(iii) a security officer as defined in the Public Transport Authority Act 2003 section 3,
and the officer suffers bodily harm;
(b) where the offence is committed under subsection (1)(h)(i), (j) or (k) and the person assaulted suffers bodily harm.

it's clear that you are a public officer for what? You are not designated a a security officer as defined in the Public Transport Authority Act 2003 section 3... [-X

or am i reading it wrong?

Re: Transperth Security and Transit Officers

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:22 pm
by Cloverfield
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Re: Transperth Security and Transit Officers

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:45 pm
by Fastlane
Cloverfield wrote:I've hidden their identity. These guys, that do a hard job seem to think that they are something they aren’t
They work for Wilsons or not? Should they be carrying OC Spray if they do?

Re: Transperth Security and Transit Officers

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:01 am
by Cloverfield
Personally I can't find any legislation that says they can, I can find a fair bit that say that they cannot thought