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Filming/Photographing Transperth services

Post by perthskies »

On here it states:
http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/AboutUs ... fault.aspx
Requests for access to Public Transport Authority property for filming and photography purposes (excluding news media) should be directed in writing to the following:

Corporate Communications Officer
Public Transport Authority
PO Box 8125
Perth Business Centre, WA, 6849

Applications may also be sent to the Public Transport Authority, Corporate Communications Officer via fax to (08) 9326 2755.

The Public Transport Authority requires four weeks notice before filming or photography will be allowed.

A commercial fee of $100 (+GST) per hour (to a maximum of $500 +GST per site per day) will apply should approval be granted to film or photograph on PTA property.

The above does not apply to members of the general public taking pictures for private purposes.
If I wanted to film some trains or say buses passing by for a YouTube video series would I have to pay this hefty fee? :|
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I'm reading it as you've got to pay the fee if the fil/photo will be used for commercial purposes.

If you are a member of the general public and want to share pictures of your trip, etc with all your net friends (private purposes?) then the fee does not apply.

But then I am neither a lawyer or a bueracrat (can't spell this one) so I'm not 100% sure.
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"film or photograph on PTA property"

Stay off PTA property and will not cost you a cent.


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I would expect that it is to cover the cost of any escort or service changes required to allow safe access to their property.
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Post by htfuc »

There is no legislation that stops people from filming on PTA property. It is only an internal policy. You may be requested to cease if you are seen to be filming or taking photos, but legally there is nothing legally that any employee of the PTA can do to stop you.

Unless a member of public makes a complaint (i.e My daughter is being filmed, I'm being filmed, etc) then you can be legally dealt with...otherwise...go nuts.... ;)
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Post by Infernal »

when in mandurah, on a quiet Sunday afternoon the train driver boarded the end pointing at Perth and left the door open, i started to chat to him and have a nosy around the rail deck, i politely asked if i could take a few snaps and he said that transperth said we have to say no to any one that asks, but if i took them with out asking, there was nothing he could do, i never needed up getting the pictures, he also said your not supposed to take pictures from the platform, and loads more government bollox.

then we got into the discussion of how stupid the rule was because loads of trainspotters travel the world to take pictures of different rail equipment.
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I took some snaps in the cabin one day and took some video when I was fortunate enough to go for a ride up front. The driver never tried to stop me.
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Post by perthskies »

Thank you for your responses.

After also calling the Transperth Infoline to confirm this, I will continue to film/take photos for non-commercial purposes.
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Like rustynswrail said, just stay off their property and there is nothing they can do.
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Post by gkoutlis »

Noticed one of those Transperth marked security cars with a Cam Cord pointing forwards, is this used to record events?

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gkoutlis wrote:Noticed one of those Transperth marked security cars with a Cam Cord pointing forwards, is this used to record events?

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I would have thought so Mr G..... Same as like the police force in the US having dash cams... If it gets the idoits behind bars then its money worth spent
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Post by slipknot »

hey perthskies thats a really good topic youve raised :wink:

because Im currently making a private use documentry assignment for Tafe/hobby, and i asked the guard if this was ok, he said no problem... mayby he didnt know or something.
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whilst working for a perth radio station, we tried to sneak aboard a train from perth to mandurah and do a whole show broadcasting from in the train. somehow the transit guards got wind of it (probably listening to our show) and stopped us as we got onto the platform. we were "detained" and told not to board the train or leave the platform because no-one can 'film or make any public broadcast on PTA property without express prior permission'. Eventually some big head honcho from PTA came down and let us do the show from the train as long as he could be on the show and tell everyone how good PTA was and how good the Perth to Mandurah train line is for WA.... haha

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Post by grizzla »

Its true you can film whatever you want without copping a fine. However if you're filming or photographing stuff and act like a tool when questioned about it, you may get a fine. If you're carrying a camera and tripod you could be fined for getting in the way of passenger flow. Also if you're standing in a place that may interfere with the flow of human traffic you can be fined. If you use a flash camera and take a photo of an oncoming train (happens daily in the underground) then expect a fine because the driver then sees spots for the next 20 minutes.

Section 20(b)
Place or carry a thing/item in such position or manner as to interfere with ingress, egress, comfort or endanger safety of another person. ($50)

Most of the officers are ok about it especially with tourists but hate it when you get tall poppy syndrome stating stuff like "I can film what I want - what you gonna do about it?"

If another passenger makes a complaint that they are being filmed/photographed it comes under 20(b) when it refers to the "comfort". If you are male and that person is female then you can expect to be talking to WAPOL within the next few minutes!

Also if an Transit Officer suspects you of filming or photographing government infrastructure you can expect to be questioned (especially in this day and age) and they'll probably find a legal way in to ascertain your personal details. Then you'll end up the subject of a report and good CCTV footage of you. Remember be alert but not alarmed and all that jazz? You might end up on a government watchlist!

My first post here. Nice site. Good to see a proper and intelligent forum for adults and young people alike to share thoughts without getting abused or bullied.
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Post by gkoutlis »

Wow, that's some good stuff there grizzla.

Many thanks for sharing and welcome on board. Definatley a greater understanding on what the go is for people who wish to photograph Transperth vehicles/trains etc.

Much appreciated.

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