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can you be fined for swearing on rail prop? overheard this

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:58 pm
by cat1
I overheard a kid on the bus talking loudly on his phone, hey what else is there to do on a bus but eavsdrop.

I don't know if he was leaving part of the story out or if he disrespected a transit officer but this is what he said.

He was sitting on a platform (I think) and called his friend a f***ing idiot , a female transit officer turned around and said excuse me , pardon. He tried to explain he wasn't swearing at her, she then got some male guards and they proceeded to, he said 'get in his space' and he was issued a 50 fine for swearing at an officer. He is going to court to fight it.

Ok he was sitting right behind me couldnd't help but hear , he also seemed like a decent kid if I could make that assumption.

I guess I would like to know that if this story actually occured the way he told it , is this right to do this? Can you be fined $50 for talking to a friend and swearing in the conversation ? It just doesn't seem right.

Re: can you be fined for swearing on rail prop? overheard th

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:04 am
by Blinky
is it just me or do others think something is missing. How about no swearing is desired or similar. Well not in public anyhow :wink:

Re: can you be fined for swearing on rail prop? overheard th

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:13 am
by jasonjag
Blinky wrote:is it just me or do others think something is missing. How about no swearing is desired or similar. Well not in public anyhow :wink:
All the young kids and youths of today swear F*** this and F**** that , even the females high school kids, jj

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:29 am
by Smithy
high school females are probs the worse :P

Re: can you be fined for swearing on rail prop? overheard th

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:45 pm
by robbage
Blinky wrote:is it just me or do others think something is missing.
Common decency. I guess the word common is inappropriate, though.

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:13 pm
by playworth
omg try the soccer oval. geez .

as for the female guard well right always gunna be wrong.

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:36 pm
by robbage
Not sure why you are polling. It's a law or it's not a law regardless of our opinion. But if you use that language near my kids, be prepared, I know origami - the ancient Japanese art of folding people into tiny animals and birds.

reply to blinky

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:50 pm
by cat1
Actually blinky I have never done a poll before and I pressed a button to quick lol .
I totally agree, yes not swearing I don't swear but then I'm not a kid... Have you caught a bus or train between 3-30pm? It's the standard vocab these days. That's why all the security start so early, to supervise the kids!

Robbage

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:01 am
by cat1
Hi Robbage ,
It wasn't me who swore so please don't fold me into a crane :D . I'm am asking if a kid said a "naughty word" to a school friend and got a $50 fine or was mistaken at who he directed it to should have to go to court. Is it right ?

There seems to be a lot of purists on this one , I'm a bit dissapointed, kids swear every day at bus and train stops. In fact they do a lot worse than that.

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:37 am
by playworth
some one gotta crack down on the anti soical behaveior.

if it isnt police.let it be the PTA.

Re: Robbage

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:32 pm
by robbage
cat1 wrote:Hi Robbage ,
It wasn't me who swore so please don't fold me into a crane :D . I'm am asking if a kid said a "naughty word" to a school friend and got a $50 fine or was mistaken at who he directed it to should have to go to court. Is it right ?
It was probably an on-the-spot, which means it doesn't go to court (unless the fine isn't paid) I doubt it matters who it was directed at. I'm no saint, but there's a time and place for it; in a public place like that isn't one of them IMHO.
cat1 wrote:There seems to be a lot of purists on this one
See above- 'a time and a place'. Purists don't want to be in my workshop when I put something down and can't find it 2 minutes later :)

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:04 am
by cat1
[quote="Smithy"]high school females are probs the worse :P[/quote]

I had a friend who worked at a certain very rough shopping centre and he had to apprehend a female for shoplifting , she was five foot nothing and proceeded to then try and whack him on the head with her plaster cast!!!! She had a broken arm

Re: Robbage

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:11 am
by cat1
[quote="robbage"][quote="cat1"]Hi Robbage ,
It wasn't me who swore so please don't fold me into a crane :D . I'm am asking if a kid said a "naughty word" to a school friend and got a $50 fine or was mistaken at who he directed it to should have to go to court. Is it right ?[/quote]

It was probably an on-the-spot, which means it doesn't go to court (unless the fine isn't paid) I doubt it matters who it was directed at. I'm no saint, but there's a time and place for it; in a public place like that isn't one of them IMHO.

[quote="cat1"]There seems to be a lot of purists on this one[/quote]

See above- 'a time and a place'. [i]Purists[/i] don't want to be in my workshop when I put something down and can't find it 2 minutes later :)[/quote]

Ok not a fan of over quoting sorry robbage.. he is going to court to challenge that he didn't direct it at female transit officer. I think that if he's willing to go to court over a 50 fine to dispute he didn't use such language towards a female security officer then that's actually shows some guts. How many 18 , 19 year old males woud do that? lol I think I am showing my age but 18 to me is a kid.

time and place yep I agree with you on that one

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:59 am
by auntys_eyes
Many Transperth services (buses and trains) display posters outlining Transperth Regulations for using Public Transport. One of these regulations is (and i paraphrase) "Offensive behaviour is not permitted" or "Offensive behaviour will not be tolerated". It would come down to interpretation of "offensive behaviour", but personally i am often offended by the over use of foul and obnoxious language on our trains and buses, and wish someone was around to deal with these individuals.

Re: Robbage

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:24 pm
by robbage
cat1 wrote:I think that if he's willing to go to court over a 50 fine to dispute he didn't use such language towards a female security officer then that's actually shows some guts. How many 18 , 19 year old males woud do that? lol I think I am showing my age but 18 to me is a kid
Or foolhardy... if he loses, he pays the fine and court costs. If he wins, he still loses for wasting half a day over $50