Private security back on perth trains

dazla · Post by **dazla** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:48 pm

They will still have to call a Transit Guard when they have an arrest, same as it has always been. Chubb Guards arnt Transit Guards.

Kinda like putting Chubb Guards in a Traffic Car doing Highway Patrol duties........

GC101 · Post by **GC101** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:59 pm

dazla · Post by **dazla** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:08 pm

Thats what Transit Guards were ment to be, but like Allanah says, you cant force people to do the job.

Transit Guards are ment to be a one stop shop, but if they dont have the numbers they can only be stretched so far.

They have the same battle with resources that the Police are experiancing.

Transit Guards can operate without much help from Police if they had the numbers, it only takes a couple of arrests in a night to take a few Transit Guards off the system.

ConstableCare · Post by **ConstableCare** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:32 am

dazla wrote:They have the same battle with resources that the Police are experiancing.

Maybe they need to look at reducing their entry criteria?

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:42 am

Planning and Infrastructure Minister Alannah MacTiernan has denied the shortage is threatening public safety, but says the new officers will help to ensure there is a high staff presence on services.

Who is she trying to fool??

I regulary see trains without any guards on at night let alone two.

This new squad only operates from 5am-3pm anyway!!

danny · Post by **danny** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:06 pm

dazla wrote:Kinda like putting Chubb Guards in a Traffic Car doing Highway Patrol duties........

Recipe for disaster!

Fastlane · Post by **Fastlane** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:50 pm

danny wrote:
dazla wrote:Kinda like putting Chubb Guards in a Traffic Car doing Highway Patrol duties........
Recipe for disaster!

isn't this what Secureforce would love to be doing?

wascanner · Post by **wascanner** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:40 pm

Secure Force is contracted for bus security

danny · Post by **danny** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:24 pm

wascanner wrote:Secure Force is contracted for bus security

Arrgh yes Secure Force, who used to drive SS Commodores....like you need a SS to keep up with a bus....

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:55 pm

VX SS's with the full CHEV badges even with the proper centres on the wheels.

One of them even had a full lazer set-up inside for Kwinana fwy bus-lane patrols...

Even had those extremely gay monaro rear lights.

Depends who's driving danny..

danny · Post by **danny** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:10 pm

Tom wrote:VX SS's with the full CHEV badges even with the proper centres on the wheels.

One of them even had a full lazer set-up inside for Kwinana fwy bus-lane patrols...

Even had those extremely gay monaro rear lights.

Depends who's driving danny..

Hehe

dazla · Post by **dazla** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:30 pm

ConstableCare wrote:
dazla wrote:They have the same battle with resources that the Police are experiancing.
Maybe they need to look at reducing their entry criteria?

This would be a dangerous thing to do, Transit Guards have similar powers to Police Officers....some people just arnt cut for it.

If they lower the standards for Transit Guards then they would have hell to pay.

GC101 · Post by **GC101** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:03 pm

wascanner · Post by **wascanner** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:43 pm

GC101 wrote:so much for the plan to have a transit guard on every train all day every day as promised at the election haha. well that was never going to happen, what i find strange is they had chubb then dumped them because the transit guards were expanding, then they re hired some to guard the new fare gates, now they will be back on the trains. also at stations the customer service people now check tickets some times. so on the train system we have CSA's, carpark attendants, chubb guards, transit guard, and police rail unit... 5 different groups involved in fare collection and or security related work...... why not just have a group that does all revenenue protection, security and customer serivce backed up by police rail unit, to save the confusion of all the different groups. they certainly need some ticket checks on trains a couple of years ago about 50% of my trips i was checked, now i havent got checked on a train and only have seen one guard on a train.

Car Park attendants are CSAs
On the system we have:
* Police Rail Unit (PTU)
* Transit Guards
* Customer Service (CSAs)
* Private security firms