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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:16 pm
by Millsy
vk6hgr wrote:Its interesting that in some US states, volunteer firefighters etc are allowed to put red and blues on their own personal vehicles! I think that's going too far
If it gets you to the incident 5 minutes earlier..

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:25 pm
by Fastlane
vk6hgr wrote:Its interesting that in some US states, volunteer firefighters etc are allowed to put red and blues on their own personal vehicles!
Some vollies in this state have red/blue lights and sirens on their private vehicles. Comes down to the role you perform and approval from DPI.

Re: Royal Life - Red&Blues

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:50 am
by auntys_eyes
Whilst working at the Hopman Cup at Burswood i spotted this vehicle parked outside. RLSSA were providing the First Aid for the event.

This is now the second, at least, RLSSA First Aid vehicle (not Ambulance) to be fitted with red & blues (different rego to the vehicle pictured above). Have they got special permission??

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Re: Royal Life - Red&Blues

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:31 am
by WPXZBP
I guess you'd need to ask them or DPI. :?:

Re: Royal Life - Red&Blues

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:41 am
by yorky
Looking at the plate it may have only just recently gotten a new rego? Wonder if the pod and lights were fitted at that time?

Re: Royal Life - Red&Blues

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:38 pm
by 4353
Do they have permission

The simple answer is no it needs to be labeled as an "Ambulance" with those markings not first aid.

When licensing a vehicle as pictured above they do not ask if you have permission or proof off registered emergency vehicle status. Its up to the DPI to either question them and/or WA Police to put a nice canary for not complying with the road traffic act.

On the rego papers there is a box going Ambulance use 0 to 100%
(First aid is not an ambulance as such so the useage would be 0%)

If they drive with the beacons and sirens or just beacons on have an accident they are simply not covered by the act nor would insurance.

Must really grind SJA Ops that WASLS can have red n blues but they cant.

Re: Royal Life - Red&Blues

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:58 pm
by observer
Guidelines for fitting and operation of warning lamps.

http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/mediaFiles/lic_vsb13.pdf

Re: Royal Life - Red&Blues

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:23 pm
by Fastlane
This is going around in circles and the guidelines are just that. DPI can give permission for any vehicle to be treated as an emergency vehicle.

Regardless, if you have issue with it make a complaint or ring them up and tell them they could get themselves in grief if they dont have permission. Pretty simple!

And remember.. they ARE a not-for-profit organisation.

Re: Royal Life - Red&Blues

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:14 pm
by WPXZBP
On a different track - I've heard that SLS now have an MOU with FESA.

Re: Royal Life - Red&Blues

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:26 pm
by 4353
Whats a MOU ?

Re: Royal Life - Red&Blues

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:50 pm
by WPXZBP
An MOU is a TLA meaning Memorandum Of Understanding.

Just a clarification. Just done my homework - FESA have taken responsibility for "...administering the service level agreement for Surf Life Saving Western Australia's rescue operations..." I don't think RLSWA are the same as SLSWA. Apologies for the confusion.

Re: Royal Life - Red&Blues

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:00 pm
by Glen
Hi All

In 1995, the Ford Longreach was introduced in small numbers into regional & metro areas of Victoria as a lightweight transport vehicle unsuccessfully offering an alternative to the Holden VR Commodore. Most had the back bending and where taken off the road in VIC in 1996.

Regards Glen