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St John Ambulance (6DS), AMS, RFDS etc. Frequencies, callsigns and discussion.

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Post by munchkin1981 » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:12 pm

like george said (i checked tonight) we have to do 30:2 across the board weather its child baby or adult
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Post by gkoutlis » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:37 am

Just using a reference guide to Skills Manual for CPR published last year - CPR for Adult/Child Resuss - Paramedic

ADULT: 30 compressions (100/min) followed by 2 ventilations (one cycle)

CHILD: 15 Compressions (100/min) followed by 2 ventilations (one cycle)

Reference: Skill 405

Im pretty sure the 15 comps for children is debatable - But as a Vollie First Aider its 30:2 for both...
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Post by Ambul8 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:29 pm

PFO wrote:
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gkoutlis wrote:30:2 - Is the standard SJA are putting out - Regardless whether its a child, infant or an adult..... Its all the same - 30:2 - HOWEVER, compressions for an infant is done by using 2 fingers only and going a third of the depth of their body as they are still fragile...
yep, thats the rate they are teaching in first aid and for VFAS. But I believe the original question from PFO was more centered to the Ambulance Service.
munchkin1981 wrote:15:2 is what we get taught for kids and secoundly i aint in uni i just a voly
There is a distinct difference between Neonates, Infants and Paediatrics
ambul8 is correct in this last statement but my question still hasnot been answered. As a volly working on road who dont have als
or an IP who dont have als what ratios are they working with, bearing in mind
what sja are teaching, How about patient transport?

There seems to be a few varying statements here, the arc guidelines are quite clear. Ambul8 states all ambos use 15-1 yet not all ambos are als trained? Are you als trained ambul8 ? or has the point im getting at been lost lol :D
Yeah, the rates I showed there come from SJA Skills Manual and are specific for the Ambulance Service.

As I said, ALS is inaddition to CPR when a Paramedic is available, the rates do not change - only the drugs, airway management and defib's.

I hold current ALS, PHTLS and ACLS quals. On our mine we do 30:2 plus ALS interventions where indicated. No sedation untill we have consulted.
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Post by PFO » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:50 am

whatdid u think of the ALS course. did u do it in WA? at CTEC?
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Post by Ambul8 » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:09 am

PFO wrote:whatdid u think of the ALS course. did u do it in WA? at CTEC?
it was very centred around hospital arrest team, as opposed to single or two person responder with environmental variables.

But it focussed not only on arrest but pre-arrest phase (ie how to tell that your Pt is not so flash and may arrest).

There is rumblings of a PHTLS course in Perth soon, but will have to wait for details.

CTEC's cannualtion and venipuncture courses are good too.

The RFDS also do a good course - Medical Care for Shipmasters, which is a good remote equivilant
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Post by Weedmeister » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:05 am

Hi Ambul8,

take a look at the Australasian Registry or EMTs not sure when or where the courses would be run, though it could be a good alternative..

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Post by musketeer » Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:15 pm

Gidday, hope by now that you are aware of the two PHTLS courses in Perth in September. Need more.....? PM me

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