advance life

Post by **PFO** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:44 pm

hey i was just reading through some old threads and came across one for spinal care. Can anyone tell me why SJA would sell a product yet not use them .I have done a reasonable amount of research on this topic and would be interested in other peoples views. Mine personally is backboard, headblocks and spiderstraps with packing. I have also heard through the grapevine that SJA have actually purchased some 200 units which they will eventually introduce into their vehicles. Do they use Keds?

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:48 pm

PFO wrote:hey i was just reading through some old threads and came across one for spinal care. Can anyone tell me why SJA would sell a product yet not use them .I have done a reasonable amount of research on this topic and would be interested in other peoples views. Mine personally is backboard, headblocks and spiderstraps with packing.

I'm pro Spine Boards, C Spine Collars, Head Blocks, Spider straps & Packing.. I think the global use and adoption by top state Ambulance Services is a clear indication that they would beneficial. Plus they seem to be recommended in every text book I read..

.

Markmywords · Post by **Markmywords** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:49 pm

backboard is the way to go, got no idea why they dont use them but sell them. Im guessing no more room in the sprinter for storage.

its interesting to see that the views on the alas thread are increasing quickly lol be keen to see how many different IP addys are looking at this thread.

2 mvas in warnbro call ALAS quickly lol sja have no crew for the second prang hahaha

Post by **PFO** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:01 pm

of all the studies i have seen, its actually the Vac mat that is the gold standard with only 1-2mm of body movement through all the planes of movement, but in saying this the problem for pre-hospital ambos is that its not really indicated for us by only 2 people and would require a minimum of 4. Backboard with all the additions is the obvious next choice.Plus it would be pretty hard to immobilize someone who is standing onto a vac mat lol. I have however used a newer version plastic scoop in practice to see if i had nothing
else to use. and it actually worked on a standing patient, but i wouldnt recommend it in the real world lol

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:04 pm

PFO wrote:of all the studies i have seen, its actually the Vac mat that is the gold standard with only 1-2mm of body movement through all the planes of movement, but in saying this the problem for pre-hospital ambos is that its not really indicated for us by only 2 people and would require a minimum of 4. Backboard with all the additions is the obvious next choice.Plus it would be pretty hard to immobilize someone who is standing onto a vac mat lol. I have however used a newer version plastic scoop in practice to see if i had nothing
else to use. and it actually worked on a standing patient, but i wouldnt recommend it in the real world lol

. Be interesting to see if a company has combined the benefits of both in a a design.

Update: http://www.hartwellmedical.com/combi.html I found this type out on the market however would it protect the spine. You can have both.. Clever design. What do you think Markmywords & PFO

Markmywords · Post by **Markmywords** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:07 pm

neann do a good spineboard.

vacuum mattress is the bees knees but as PFO said at least 4 people to make it an easy job.

Herpes · Post by **Herpes** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:10 pm

Edited by admin - inappropriate

Post by **PFO** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:25 pm

anyone hear that dave cloughly has left sja and when and how did this happen

Markmywords · Post by **Markmywords** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:26 pm

jason ford..was he a vollie ?
Jeanette i knew a vollie at serpy called that

Markmywords · Post by **Markmywords** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:27 pm

PFO wrote:anyone hear that dave cloughly has left sja and when and how did this happen

Well miracles never cease to happen.

Im sure he got a nice leaving package.

dont know if how or why ? Bob Barker should be the next to go.

Herpes · Post by **Herpes** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:28 pm

Edited by admin - inappropriate

Markmywords · Post by **Markmywords** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:35 pm

Edited by admin - inappropriate

The jason i was thinking off was a vollie at serpy then went to mandurah so i dont think i was thinking off the right one.

Herpes · Post by **Herpes** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:35 pm

MMW what did you do at the airport!!!!

Security must have been busy when 911 occurred

Jason Ford was a dangerous person (if you were a patient) to be around. Stability is required along with a level head to get out of bed each day

Markmywords · Post by **Markmywords** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:39 pm

When 911 occured i was sitting in the tea room at 5am watching it haha i did first aid at the airport way back when.

Never did security though.

Saw ALAS a few times at the international coming to pick patients up off flights.

Markmywords · Post by **Markmywords** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:17 pm

Herpes: Did you ever vollie at sja by any chance ?