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Water corp Fire support

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does Water corp Fire support have p1 or p2 status
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I may Be incorrect but I believe the Support vehicle is set up for emergency turn out L&S
The vehicle has the capability its just a matter of regulations.
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I have a picture here somewhere but I am sure that it does have lights fitted just to back up pacestick. Even some of their water trailers have red and blue lights on them.
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Why would you give sirens to water corp. They dont require them and they dont need to get to a job in a emergency that's why we have fire trucks.
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Hi Macca, not sure about the sirens. However, to contribute to this discussion, in Bullsbrok and surrounding areas where we do have one 7:2, tanks and hydrants and scarce or non existant. 500 lts on a light tanker and 4000 lts on one 3:4 does not go very far. In the past, at major incidents, we were very grateful that Water Corp. got there so quickly with tankers. Saved a lot of time with lots a vehicles leaving fires and travelling 5 - km to a reliable water source in town. In City of Swan there are limited 7:2s operational and they are always being called out. Maybe this is why Water Corps have siren?
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.....oh I forgot to add to previous comment, this is especially pertinent in the late evenings & night when air support is not available. I know there will be a lot of discussions about the use of sirens and lights in an "emergency", as a community, we were very grateful when the Water Corp turned up with the wet stuff so quickly.
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I once saw lights and sirens on a B-double fuel tanker. I don't have a problem with it as long as the drivers are trained.
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WaterCorp Fire Support does not have a siren fitted - it is fitted with Red Beacons/Grill lights for movements on the Fireground.
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Firstly, do not get confused with the overuse of the often incorrect term "lights & sirens". Just because a vehicle has warning lights fitted it does NOT automatically mean it has a siren fitted as well. The two are not mutually inclusive. Some vehicles, for whatever reason, have warning lights fitted (including red and blue), but do not have a siren.

Secondly, some vehicles from recognised emergency services, as well as statutory bodies, have warning lights fitted for use only at or on active incident scenes. Different services/departments/organisations have in place regulations/SOPs/guidelines that require vehicles to display warning lights in certain circumstances. Those vehicles may not have a siren, may not be required to attend under priority, may not have drivers trained in priority/UDD driving, but never-the-less are required to display warning lights whilst attending an incident.
By way of example, our BFB has a vehicle which is fully marked as a BFB vehicle, is fitted with red/blue warning lights and siren but is not authorised to be driven under priority. It turns out "normal road" and we activate the warning lights once at an incident.
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So aunty, why does this vehicle even have a siren fitted?
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xr8edute wrote:So aunty, why does this vehicle even have a siren fitted?
When it was first aquired it was used as a priority vehicle hence fitted with both lights and siren. Since then the vehicle's role has changed, and also standards for priority authorised vehicles have changed (she's getting a bit old).
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Here is another point to through out - would you think its required to have a small fleet of vehicles that are able to go emergency conditions to attend burst water pipes? [severe incidents]

With water becoming precious and valuable - sometimes can take Water corp over an hour to attend [burst water pipe resulting in the road collapsing]

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written_ficton wrote:With water becoming precious and valuable - sometimes can take Water corp over an hour to attend [burst water pipe resulting in the road collapsing]
Problem is a burst water pipe doesn't involve life endangerment, so there is no justification for it. A road is likely to crumble before anything major, I've been to two or three now where the road just turns into a mini lake and an off road course, nothing serious enough.
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a burst main may endanger life if we over-run the reticulated supply at a big job and dont have enough water for clp's, monitors, sprinkler systems etc- at this point water corp would be required to attend asap to isolate surrounding non-essential supply.
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