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Digital transmissions on the WAERN

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:54 pm
by Always RX
Not sure if this is a hint of things to come or if any of you have heard the same?? Today I received P25 digital transmissions on 162.8375MHz, which is listed as DEC channel 516 (Canning Mills). The transmissions sounded to me like fairly informal basic radio checks and discussions regarding the P25 performance on the UHF and 'high band'. No call signs were used and so I cannot really say who was involved. Incidentally the quality of the transmissions was excellent.

Re: Digital transmissions on the WAERN

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:51 pm
by vk6hgr
I heard some too, in analogue mode so couldn't hear the conversation.

Wonder if they're transitioning to digital..?

Re: Digital transmissions on the WAERN

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:16 pm
by Sgt Seedy
does digital means it going to be encrypted?

Re: Digital transmissions on the WAERN

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:18 pm
by vk6hgr
Sgt Seedy wrote:does digital means it going to be encrypted?
Probably: -(

Re: Digital transmissions on the WAERN

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:28 pm
by WPXZBP
Digital will be coming to WAERN metro.

Re: Digital transmissions on the WAERN

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:43 am
by auntys_eyes
WPXZBP wrote:Digital will be coming to WAERN metro.
But will it be encrypted??

Re: Digital transmissions on the WAERN

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:55 am
by WPXZBP
Hazard a guess, yes. I'm not privy to that info.

Re: Digital transmissions on the WAERN

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:00 am
by vk6hgr
WPXZBP wrote:Hazard a guess, yes. I'm not privy to that info.
Let me be the first to say... Fiddlesticks :-(

Re: Digital transmissions on the WAERN

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:26 pm
by yorky
Seconded.

Re: Digital transmissions on the WAERN

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:47 am
by observer
It does appear that the metro FRS will be getting digitial radios in the near future (as to the exact time line, that is a seperate discussion). Also from the info I have recieved that the radios may be encrypted. How accurate this info is remains to be seen, but if the features/capabilities that I have heard are included, then the radios will most likely have to be encrypted.

Re: Digital transmissions on the WAERN

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:48 am
by Bonez
I understand at least one reason they would want to do this.

Idiot kids with scanners going around lighting fires then listening to FESA hard at work later on while thinking they are big proud men for lighting the fire.

I'm sure it happens.

Re: Digital transmissions on the WAERN

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:22 am
by richard omeara
Who ever it is they just did a test with encryption.CRAP

Re: Digital transmissions on the WAERN

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:24 am
by Always RX
You appear to be right on the money observer. The transmissions I am receiving on the same frequency today are mostly coming up as encrypted signals.

Re: Digital transmissions on the WAERN

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:29 pm
by dlcat1
Bonez wrote:I understand at least one reason they would want to do this.

Idiot kids with scanners going around lighting fires then listening to FESA hard at work later on while thinking they are big proud men for lighting the fire.

I'm sure it happens.
I believe that was one of the reasons I got told NSW went encrypted with GRN or PMR back in the day. It's a real pity as there are so many people out there who scan responsibly, but such is progress :(

Re: Digital transmissions on the WAERN

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:39 pm
by veteranfirie
There is a substantial amount of information we do not transmit at the moment.

For example.

Fatalities.
FIO information.
Names addresses and contact phone details of witnesses.
Anything to do with police arson operations.
Anything of a political (local govt mainly) nature.
Injuries to firefighters (spouses listening in)
Any suspected terrorist act.
Information on major incidents that the press may misconstrue.


Also have a look at the next major incident you attend, there are lots of FESA personell using mobile phones to convey information.

The digital radio network was first mooted in the mid 90's and I think when the Ops room move to Cockburn in early 2012 we will be totally digital.