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Re: General fire discussions

Post by Helitak_670 » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:09 pm

It has been too quiet this season. Me thinks that they have all been locked up.

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Re: General fire discussions

Post by Tyranus » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:10 pm

haha one can only hope...but I doubt it.
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Re: General fire discussions

Post by Helitak_670 » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:23 pm

You think about it, its currently middle January, and there has really been no big fires as such. The choppers have been sitting on the ground at Perth airport for as long as I can remember and have only been mobilised a few times. This time last year we were busy as anything.

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Re: General fire discussions

Post by gkoutlis » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:40 pm

In all honesty - Let's hope it stays this way guys... Wouldn't you prefer sitting at home or at work in Airconditioned comfort rather than fighting deliberatley lit fires? I'm happy there arn't any.

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Re: General fire discussions

Post by Tyranus » Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:01 pm

I say again, One can hope they're all locked up and there's few callouts left for the season, but I unfortunately think there will be more. There's no shortage of idiots left on this planet.
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Re: General fire discussions

Post by Jonesy » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:15 pm

gkoutlis wrote:In all honesty - Let's hope it stays this way guys... Wouldn't you prefer sitting at home or at work in Airconditioned comfort rather than fighting deliberatley lit fires? I'm happy there arn't any.

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Or at home in bed at 1am in the morning two weeks in a row.... yes I would prefer. There were also a few fires late in the season last year (March/April Easter Period) so lets hope the rest of the season continues to be relatively quiet.

Having only been here (WA) for 18 months, I cant beleive how much smoke the recent incidents have put up in relation to fire size. This coastal scrub stuff that we get down our way is horrible stuff - I certainly have had enough of it. And dont get me started on the Sand, a bit of a change from the mud and rock tracks I had to deal with in Tassie.....

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Re: General fire discussions

Post by Zebedee » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:32 pm

Jonesy wrote:dont get me started on the Sand, a bit of a change from the mud and rock tracks I had to deal with in Tassie.....
Hehe yep - always fun having to play in the sand. Back when I was doing a bit of fire stuff it was a barrel of laughs :roll:
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Re: General fire discussions

Post by Zebedee » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:47 pm

Thanks to Fastlane for pointing out this page on the BoM website to me ;)

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IDW15000
Australian Government Bureau of Meteorology
Western Australia
FIRE WEATHER FORECAST FOR THE SOUTHWEST LAND DIVISION OF WESTERN AUSTRALIA
Issued at 3:35pm WDT on Thursday the 15th of January 2009
Valid for Friday   
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CENTRAL WEST:
                     MAX   MIN                    WIND   FIRE   FIRE
                     TEMP  RH%   TIME PERIOD     (Km/h)  INDEX  DANGER
COASTAL:              44   10    AM              NE  35   65    EXTREME  
                                                       
                                 PM              SW  40
Comments: Winds WNW 25 late morning to early afternoon.
INLAND:               46   7     AM              NE  35   86    EXTREME  
                                                       
                                 PM              SW  40
Comments: Winds NW 25 late morning to mid afternoon.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
LOWER WEST:
                     MAX   MIN                    WIND   FIRE   FIRE
                     TEMP  RH%   TIME PERIOD     (Km/h)  INDEX  DANGER
COASTAL:              40   15    AM              NE  40   57    EXTREME  
                                                       
                                 PM              SW  35
Comments:  
INLAND:               41   11    AM              NE  40   53    EXTREME  
                                                       
                                 PM              SW  35
Comments:  
METRO COASTAL PLAIN:  40   15    AM              NE  40   59    EXTREME  
                                                       
                                 PM              SW  35
Comments:  
METRO HILLS:          41   11    AM              NE  40   60    EXTREME  
                                                       
                                 PM              SW  35
Comments:  
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
CENTRAL WHEATBELT:
                     MAX   MIN                    WIND   FIRE   FIRE
                     TEMP  RH%   TIME PERIOD     (Km/h)  INDEX  DANGER
MORTLOCK:             43   9     AM              NE  40   60    EXTREME  
                                                       
                                 PM              NW  20
Comments:  
AVON:                 43   9     AM              NE  40   67    EXTREME  
                                                       
                                 PM              NW  20
Comments:  
NINGHAN:              41   8                     NE  37   46    VERY HIGH
                                                       
                                 PM              NNE 20
Comments:  
JILBADGIE:            41   9     AM              NE  37   48    VERY HIGH
                                                       
                                 PM              NNE 22
Comments:  
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
GREAT SOUTHERN:
                     MAX   MIN                    WIND   FIRE   FIRE
                     TEMP  RH%   TIME PERIOD     (Km/h)  INDEX  DANGER
UPPER:                42   10    AM              NE  30   53    EXTREME  
                                                       
                                 PM              N   24
Comments:  
BEAUFORT:             38   13    AM              NE  35   41    VERY HIGH
                                                       
                                 PM              N   23
Comments:  
ROE:                  40   10    AM              NE  35   43    VERY HIGH
                                                       
                                 PM              NNE 23
Comments:  
LAKES:                39   10    AM              NE  28   32    VERY HIGH
                                                       
                                 PM              NNE 23
Comments:  
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
SOUTHWEST:
                     MAX   MIN                    WIND   FIRE   FIRE
                     TEMP  RH%   TIME PERIOD     (Km/h)  INDEX  DANGER
COASTAL:              37   17    AM              NE  33   35    VERY HIGH
                                                       
                                 PM              W   20
Comments:  
INLAND:               39   13    AM              NE  35   34    VERY HIGH
                                                       
                                 PM              WNW 20
Comments:  
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
SOUTH COASTAL:
                     MAX   MIN                    WIND   FIRE   FIRE
                     TEMP  RH%   TIME PERIOD     (Km/h)  INDEX  DANGER
STIRLING COASTAL:     35   18    AM              NNE 35   32    VERY HIGH
                                                       
                                 PM              E   30
Comments: Winds E/SE 30 on the coast in the PM.
STIRLING INLAND:      38   14    AM              NNE 35   37    VERY HIGH
                                                       
                                 PM              NNE 25
Comments:  
OLDFIELD COASTAL:     36   18    AM              NE  30   35    VERY HIGH
                                                       
                                 PM              E   30
Comments: Winds E/SE 35 on the coast in the PM.
OLDFIELD INLAND:      38   11    AM              NE  35   35    VERY HIGH
                                                       
                                 PM              NE  25
Comments: 
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Re: General fire discussions

Post by Fastlane » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:51 pm

Zebedee wrote:
Jonesy wrote:dont get me started on the Sand, a bit of a change from the mud and rock tracks I had to deal with in Tassie.....
Hehe yep - always fun having to play in the sand. Back when I was doing a bit of fire stuff it was a barrel of laughs :roll:
Yet another good reason to stay well away from Whiteman Park :P

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Re: General fire discussions

Post by Mug » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:52 pm

I see a lot of "very high"s and "extreme"s.

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Re: General fire discussions

Post by Tyranus » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:55 pm

mmm I wondered if they'd bump the fire danger to extreme. Shire of Mundaring gets a page advising if the Fire danger is Very High or Extreme.
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Re: General fire discussions

Post by Bigfella78 » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:11 pm

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDW60900.shtml

How much hotter does it need to get for it to be extreme?
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Re: General fire discussions

Post by WPXZBP » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:15 pm

It's not just temperature that makes an "extreme". It looks at wind, humidity, how dry the burnable materials are and so on.

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Re: General fire discussions

Post by SamW » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:27 pm

Shire of Mundaring gets a page advising if the Fire danger is Very High or Extreme.
I love getting this message early Sunday mornings... :roll:

And yes it has been very quiet, I don't think we have had any call outs to fires in our own area this season, nor have we been up Joondalup way this season either, we normally go up there a few times in summer to help out. But there is still a long time left until the weather starts to cool down.

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Re: General fire discussions

Post by Fastlane » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:33 pm

SamW wrote:
Shire of Mundaring gets a page advising if the Fire danger is Very High or Extreme.
I love getting this message early Sunday mornings... :roll:

And yes it has been very quiet, I don't think we have had any call outs to fires in our own area this season, nor have we been up Joondalup way this season either, we normally go up there a few times in summer to help out. But there is still a long time left until the weather starts to cool down.
If it's any consolation, we haven't been up your way yet either :P

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