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Re: General fire discussions

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As it stands, FESA can take over as incident controller from DEC/LG if asked.
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Re: General fire discussions

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Helitak_670 wrote:Read it correctly.

DEC to loose "EMERGENCY" responsibility. Not the whole thing. Ie you will tend to see FESA run more incidents initially with the help of DEC.

example, a FESA DM/CFM arrives and due to lack of FESA resources he calls on DEC and I guess that is how the show will roll.
The key words here are "I Guess". All we have is a small news article which contains virtually no detail, and as such peole are guessing as to what may happen.

When you state "DEC are to loose EMERGENCY responsibility" does it mean they loose the responsibility to manage the incident, or does it also include the responsibility to respond to the incident? To quote directly from the article,
The Fire and Emergency Services Authority is ready to inherit greater responsibility should the Department of Environment and Conservation be stripped of its role as a firefighting agency, FESA chief Wayne Gregson says
This statement could lead people to believe that they will have little to no responce at all to a bushfire. However there is very little further information in the article to indicate if this will or will not happen, or how far the "stripping of responsibility" from DEC will go.

All responces to this article are plausable. Until it actually happens (if it does happen) all everyone is doing is guessing as to how things may be.
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Re: General fire discussions

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Well if Bindoon is anything to go by were all in trouble. Maybe we should get the people who organized the construction of the control point to organize the fires too, they did a great job.
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Few fires down South due to lightning strikes
Theres one 50Kms from Denmark and a few others down there.
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pacestick wrote:Few fires down South due to lightning strikes
Theres one 50Kms from Denmark and a few others down there.
Yeah they are saying one is going to end up being 28,000 hectares before containment.
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A friend was just saying there is a large fire up at Panawonica Does anyone have any Info?
I put here due to not finding any alerts about it.
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Re: General fire discussions

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Does anyone know where Perth 3rd and DM Perth is heading to? Perth 3rd called 44 but missed the location
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How does 6AR know that a catastrophic event has not occurred taking out all appliances at an incident? After about 1930 they spent about 10 mins trying to raise someone at the stirling highway incident for a sitrep .
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probably lose a whole heap gps tracking devices if something catastrophic was to happen
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So obvious when you see the answer.

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Re: General fire discussions

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Hey guys,
Just doing a paper on the Roleystone fires last year and i'm stuck on the definition of level three fires.
any help would be great.

Thanks
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Post by Enviro »

Don't know if this would help

http://www.fire-brigade.asn.au/operatio ... /aiims.asp

tried to find something you could reference
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Bingo!
Thanks Enviro
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Does anyone know where maddington went today i saw them with L/S at aprox 1530 with 2.4U LT and (HP or MP) down Albany highway south then in kelmscot at aprox 1545 i saw the LT and (HP or MP) going back up to station. Then a minute later saw 2.4U come back up.
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hold3n wrote:Does anyone know where maddington went today i saw them with L/S at aprox 1530 with 2.4U LT and (HP or MP) down Albany highway south then in kelmscot at aprox 1545 i saw the LT and (HP or MP) going back up to station. Then a minute later saw 2.4U come back up.
Were heading to a scrub fire in Armadale, but later stood down.

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