General fire discussions

[Arrived4-4]

just a quick question!!

my missus seen butler turning out today which is not unusual apart from there were 3 LTs behind the pump! anyone know why?

kyeboi

Could be Butler Pump LT LT2 Duncraig LT2

[LighteningCrashes]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dYnCUtm ... N6&index=2

[Mug]

Interesting thing just heard

Rockingham 1st notifying 6ar of a man at an incident videoing. Say he was their before they arrived, and has arrived quickly to incidents before. Claim to be concerned he is monitoring "these radio channels". Police and FIO notified.

I have done some freelance photography work, often aided by info heard on the scanner. Is this somehow illegal?

[auntys_eyes]

Is this somehow illegal?

Apparently not. This was discussed recently, see the following post; http://warsug.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t ... al#p106175. Using info heard on a scanner is not in itself a problem, as long as you are not committing a criminal act in the execution of what ever it is you do with that information. Obviously if you are breaking a law or regulation, or ignore the direction of an Authorised Person that is a problem.
I believe the person that Rockingham 1st was referring to allegedly has a history of this sort of behaviour, and some people within DFES have made enquiries as to his credentials. The matter is being investigated.

[Mug]

Interesting, so if he is found to have had nothing to do with starting the fires, he won't be charged with anything?

[Zebedee]

Interesting, so if he is found to have had nothing to do with starting the fires, he won't be charged with anything?

My guess is that's exactly what they're concerned about, that this person is there for reasons other than just observing... If he has nothing to do with lighting the fire and isn't in anyone's way, I don't think there's anything to stop him videoing what's going on. But by showing up to multiple events with camera in hand, he's been 'noticed' that's all.

[Zebedee]

There are reports in the media that a 62 year old man has died in the Parkerville fires.

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/hovea ... 30ofh.html

Very sad. While loss of property is never good news, loss of life is so much worse.

[auntys_eyes]

They base it on the number of pumps that where/are required. Hence you had pumps from Welshpool 1st and Belmont, therefore classified a 2nd Alarm. 3.4 and 2.4 aren't considered pumps.

Not entirely correct. Bush Fire brigades don't generally have 'pumps' but incidents are still classified under the 'alarm' system. I believe the term refers to stations (except where there are multiple facilities together, like Perth, Freo, Daglish, Welshpool etc). What you refer to above was probably actually a '2nd Alarm with additional resources'.

[AusRover]

Aunties


Maybe its just me!:) But this whole "2nd alarm with extra resources" thing they seem so fond of these days somehow makes the whole alarm system, which is supposes to be simple, complicated! Maybe there is a lot more paperwork with third alarms. I know the cops try to keep things simple because of the mountains of paperwork involved the more complicated it gets. It's kinda exponential!

[Nafenn]

Aunties


Maybe its just me!:) But this whole "2nd alarm with extra resources" thing they seem so fond of these days somehow makes the whole alarm system, which is supposes to be simple, complicated! Maybe there is a lot more paperwork with third alarms. I know the cops try to keep things simple because of the mountains of paperwork involved the more complicated it gets. It's kinda exponential!

for 3rd alarm fires they send an ICV... so keeping it 2nd alarm when you don't need an ICV saves the high ups some hassle.

[SgtSeedy]

Aunties


Maybe its just me!:) But this whole "2nd alarm with extra resources" thing they seem so fond of these days somehow makes the whole alarm system, which is supposes to be simple, complicated! Maybe there is a lot more paperwork with third alarms. I know the cops try to keep things simple because of the mountains of paperwork involved the more complicated it gets. It's kinda exponential!

Welcome to DFES.... make simple things difficult!... no doubt some middle manager with nothing to do has thought of it.

[Mug]

Just heard Canning Vale turn out to a DBA in their district with Duncraig as backup? Is there some big incident going on that has occupied every station closer than Duncraig? Any other reason why this would be the case?

[auntys_eyes]

Just heard Canning Vale turn out to a DBA in their district with Duncraig as backup? Is there some big incident going on that has occupied every station closer than Duncraig? Any other reason why this would be the case?

Sometimes when multiple stations are involved in group training or large exercises other resources get moved around the chess board.

[Gohie]

Just hearing of a lot of resources from Wanneroo turning out to staging point at Two Rocks station - does anyone have any information of what the incident and size of it at this stage?

[matth2004]

Yep its level 2 fire gingin