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[quote="Kingy"]Who updates the Fesa websites information?
It would be very helpful if they were a bit more timely. At Margs last year, their "emergency" information was nearly 24 hours out of date. I notice that it hasn't improved much. They should be listening to you guys instead. I do, and it is *very* helpful.[/quote]

Margs was a DEC managed incident, therefore media releases were done by DEC and rereleased by DFES. The MLO is in contact with the IC direct and coordinates what information is to go back to Media and Public Affairs.

[Arrived4-4]

[quote="Kingy"]Who updates the Fesa websites information?
It would be very helpful if they were a bit more timely. At Margs last year, their "emergency" information was nearly 24 hours out of date. I notice that it hasn't improved much. They should be listening to you guys instead. I do, and it is *very* helpful.[/quote]
I believe forum rules state this is not to discus incidents please use General Discussions

[gkoutlis]

A gentle reminder

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[kyeboi]

hotworks and vehicle movement BAN for the entire city of wanneroo, swan and mundering from 1200hrs 25/1/2013 till 1800hrs 28/1/2013

[dlcat1]

The fire was managed by dfes as of 30 mins ago. There were lots of dec appliances arriving when we left

Cheers CSU

G

Back when I was working over in the SW it was common for us to turn up to a fire (plantation brigade) and find it run by DEC and the local BFS just turning up or outnumbered 5 to 1 by DEC particularly if it was more than a few kms from town. I think it makes sense as DEC were out doing whatever they do on their trucks while the BFS members would be working in town or on the farm and would take time to get there. DEC would always try to hand the fire back to us or the local BFS/DFES as soon as they got there unless it was on their land or looked like it was heading that way. I think their plan was to send trucks, start fighting and work out who ran it later. I don't know how things have changed but hope this might help explain why DEC might have been running the Boddington fire to start.

Way way off topic but there have been some huge fire runs over east this year. 35000ha overnight in a few places. Crazy.

[SgtSeedy]

Rockingham 2nd LT needs to settle down on 6AR..... possibly lack of experience shining through here...

[Helitak_670]

Or someone who is not usually under the pump so much or put in that situation.

[SgtSeedy]

Or someone who is not usually under the pump so much or put in that situation.

good point...

[whodini]

What is a "section 13"? As ones was just declared at glen Forrest....

[Helitak_670]

Section 13, which if you have access to the DFES portal you can see the level declarations. Basically the Section 13 gives the control of an incident from the local government to DFES IMT team and where the MROC is activated.

[lytec]

Jandakot and bedfordale turning out to forrestdale

668 and 669 also.

and the big one.

[Nafenn]

Jandakot and bedfordale turning out to forrestdale

668 and 669 also.

and the big one.

I was flying at jandakot when the bombers started going out, was a decent plume of smoke and caught very quickly.

[observer]

What is a "section 13"? As ones was just declared at glen Forrest....

It is Section 13 of the Bushfire Act 1954 http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/wa/c ... 9/s13.html. Basically it outlines how DFES can take control of a fire from local Government or CALM.

[whodini]

Thanks helitak and observer for the info.. Another section 13 issued for Avon valley fire

[kyeboi]

just a quick question!!

my missus seen butler turning out today which is not unusual apart from there were 3 LTs behind the pump! anyone know why?

kyeboi