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General fire discussions

Post by WPXZBP » Thu Dec 25, 2008 6:19 pm

A request came though from one of our members to form a thread for discussions about fires. Please put general discussions in here and not in the incident threads. The latter should be used for facts/information relevant to the specific incident. Cheers!


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Re: General fire discussions

Post by gkoutlis » Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:36 pm

We have a Zone 2 Fire in Forrestfield? - Holmes Rd. - What is a Zone 2?
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Re: General fire discussions

Post by Fastlane » Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:37 pm

Zone 2 = Darling Escarpment. 2 station turnout plus 2 x Helitac's.

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Re: General fire discussions

Post by gkoutlis » Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:38 pm

Ahh ok - thanks for that.

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Re: General fire discussions

Post by Smithy » Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:31 pm

I think the theory is that with certain areas around the metro area its much better to mobilise more resources and stand them down rather then get there and have to wait for them.
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Re: General fire discussions

Post by wasaint » Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:50 pm

Smithy wrote:I think the theory is that with certain areas around the area its much better to mobilise more resources and stand them down rather then get there and have to wait for them.

Yes smithy that is the logic for it and a good one 2 do you not have Zone2 responses at all down on the coastal plains ?

i would have thought it was standard across most of the greater metro areas

and it works well, i no of 2 occasions in our area were and early aggressive attack prevented it esculating .
it certanly helps to have those extra appliances there right from the start.

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Re: General fire discussions

Post by Smithy » Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:01 pm

yeh we have zone 2 response areas around here. not 100% sure of where but i would guess the swamps maybe a good guess.

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Re: General fire discussions

Post by Fastlane » Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:09 pm

Smithy wrote:yeh we have zone 2 response areas around here. not 100% sure of where but i would guess the swamps maybe a good guess.
Zone 2/2A is specific to the Darling Scarp (its in the SOPs).

Anything else is a pre-plan. Smithy, search for it on the Volunteer Portal, there should be a map.. !

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Re: General fire discussions

Post by realfirie » Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:51 pm

yeah thats correct fastlane, apart from whats in the pre plans there are no zone 2 response areas in the city of rockingham

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Re: General fire discussions

Post by Jonesy » Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:49 pm

Smithy wrote:yeh we have zone 2 response areas around here. not 100% sure of where but i would guess the swamps maybe a good guess.
The Swamps are not officially zone 2 response but expect your pager to go off if there is one in the swamps, even tho the 2 big ones are not in your area, you will be there smithy. You better be anyway lol. Will no doubt be dual turnout if they go up, and expect helitacks there too as I ain't going in.

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Re: General fire discussions

Post by meg » Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:56 pm

Jonesy wrote:Will no doubt be dual turnout if they go up, and expect helitacks there too as I ain't going in.
I wouldn't either - swamps have tiger snakes in 'em!

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Re: General fire discussions

Post by Smithy » Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:40 am

Jonesy wrote:
Smithy wrote:yeh we have zone 2 response areas around here. not 100% sure of where but i would guess the swamps maybe a good guess.
The Swamps are not officially zone 2 response but expect your pager to go off if there is one in the swamps, even tho the 2 big ones are not in your area, you will be there smithy. You better be anyway lol. Will no doubt be dual turnout if they go up, and expect helitacks there too as I ain't going in.
Millsy and i have decided we will sit on the road and wait :D :P

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Re: General fire discussions

Post by WadeH » Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:44 am

Up here from Upper Swan to Bullsbrook, Zone 2A is everything east of the Great Northern Hwy. Automatic bomber turnout!
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Re: General fire discussions

Post by munchkin1981 » Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:45 am

the snakes will only bite u once
im sure they wont hurt much
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Re: General fire discussions

Post by meg » Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:14 am

WadeH wrote:Up here from Upper Swan to Bullsbrook, Zone 2A is everything east of the Great Northern Hwy. Automatic bomber turnout!
Much the same as here - I think anything east of Darlington is zone 2. Not so many tiger snakes up here at least - all I ever see is dugites and they will generally get out of your way!

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