Hakea prison fire.

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Hakea prison fire.

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I saw the below post in the major structure fire thread. It says they were using CH 96 for control.
Why would they have not used FRS2 considering they are working in a concrete structure and they should all have access to UHF ?

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structure fire COMFIRMED 4 ALARM
Hakeo prison


1645 Canningvale turning out with Maddington, Welshpool, Success
1651 DO beelair heading that way canningvale arrived making contact with prison guards
1655 one ceil fully involved request further pumps arrived
1658 canningvale speaking through the maddington
1701 DO Beeliar arrived and success arrived too
1704 Having trouble with comms throught concrete wall ch 96 1 prisoner with face burns and arms and other with smoke inhelation 2 men in BA with a charged 46mm
1709 Hakeo conrtol channel 96 comfirmed 4 alarm trying to boost water pressure
1712 Murdoch SET turning out
1713 fire under control doing a search of area then starting to mop up Murdoch SET standing down
1719 Cause was a lighter on a pillow 1 prisoner going to hospital ICV and SET stood down




Canningvale + LT + 2.4
Maddington + LT
Success + LT
Welshpool + LT
DO Beeliar
Murdoch SET (stood down)




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Last edited by kyeboi on Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:43 pm, edited 3 times in total
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They did try and use UHF, but it wasn't working thus the mid band was used.
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nra555 wrote:I saw the below post in the major structure fire thread. It says they were using CH 96 for control.
Why would they have not used FRS2 considering they are working in a concrete structure and they should all have access to UHF ?

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structure fire COMFIRMED 4 ALARM
Hakeo prison


1645 Canningvale turning out with Maddington, Welshpool, Success
1651 DO beelair heading that way canningvale arrived making contact with prison guards
1655 one ceil fully involved request further pumps arrived
1658 canningvale speaking through the maddington
1701 DO Beeliar arrived and success arrived too
1704 Having trouble with comms throught concrete wall ch 96 1 prisoner with face burns and arms and other with smoke inhelation 2 men in BA with a charged 46mm
1709 Hakeo conrtol channel 96 comfirmed 4 alarm trying to boost water pressure
1712 Murdoch SET turning out
1713 fire under control doing a search of area then starting to mop up Murdoch SET standing down
1719 Cause was a lighter on a pillow 1 prisoner going to hospital ICV and SET stood down




Canningvale + LT + 2.4
Maddington + LT
Success + LT
Welshpool + LT
DO Beeliar
Murdoch SET (stood down)




kyeboi
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Last edited by kyeboi on Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:43 pm, edited 3 times in total





why would you think that i would known why they would use that channel???? i just post what i hear !!




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Re: Hakea prison fire.

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The question wasnt directed at you, it was a general question. And i would have thought Uhf or vhf high would work better through buildings.
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In my experience the vhf high band h/helds dont work well inside structures and arent meant to be used as such- Ch 96 would've been a sector or command channel used as an working alternative to vhf h/band.
FRS2 is only a chat channel, although is sometimes used for BA comms, technically at a job like this BA crews should've been on SES20, 19 etc to allow for the job to be sectorised if required.
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Re: Hakea prison fire.

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A 15-bed crisis-care facility at Hakea serves the needs of a small group of acute and, at times, chronic 'at risk' offenders who need specialised treatment and support interventions.
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