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Re: General fire discussions

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:49 am
by Jonesy
Fastlane wrote:
realfirie wrote:I heard on the radio/scanner over the last couple of days somebody calling by the name something along the line of Perth south region resource co - ordinater. Something to do with strike teams. Does anyone know who this is or the what position involves? Is it a proper position/job or just another name thats been made up to sound good?
man, why so negative? I doubt people just make things up like this? Probably a role that is filled when the RCC is activated.
From my understanding, I believe this role is to assist in the assembly of strike teams/tasks forces from the perth south region for deployment to any area requested. This is a recognised position. "Perth South Resource Co-ordinantor"

Re: General fire discussions

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:03 pm
by treeny
drove down the northbound mounts bay road exit this morning on my way to work. i happened to notice they were considerably low. me thinks the helitaks may have been using it to fill up. hehe bout time they changed the water in them anyway

Re: General fire discussions

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:18 pm
by WPXZBP
Ballajura fire news article
ABC News Online wrote:Arson Squad officers have charged two boys, aged 11 and 12, with lighting the blaze.

Re: General fire discussions

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:22 pm
by dlcat1
What is the age of criminal responsibility over here?

Re: General fire discussions

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:53 pm
by Zebedee
dlcat1 wrote:What is the age of criminal responsibility over here?
I believe it's 10. But I think there may also be some other "fuzzy" condition that between the ages of 10 and some other age (14ish?) they need to "know" that what they were doing was wrong. I vaguely remember that from somewhere, but I have no idea where :)

I more certain though that kids under 10 can't be charged at all.

Re: General fire discussions

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:58 pm
by BFB LT1
thinking the same thing mate my understanding is that u cant b charged unless you are over 14 years of age.

Re: General fire discussions

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:01 pm
by Zebedee
BFB LT1 wrote:thinking the same thing mate my understanding is that u cant b charged unless you are over 14 years of age.
I'm pretty sure you can be charged any time from the age of 10 onwards, but when it goes to court, there's some extra hoops that have to be jumped through to say that the kid was aware that doing whatever it was, actually was "wrong" and "illegal".

But I don't have anything to back that up with, I'm sorry, other than a very vague and very dim recollection of it being mentioned in a news article at some point, somewhere ... Not much to go on I know ;)

Re: General fire discussions

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:07 pm
by BFB LT1
i Know Zebee thats the thing it has to stand up in court i wish i could buddy

Re: General fire discussions

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:30 pm
by Fastlane
Zebedee wrote:
dlcat1 wrote:What is the age of criminal responsibility over here?
I believe it's 10. But I think there may also be some other "fuzzy" condition that between the ages of 10 and some other age (14ish?) they need to "know" that what they were doing was wrong. I vaguely remember that from somewhere, but I have no idea where :)

I more certain though that kids under 10 can't be charged at all.
Correct on both.

From the Criminal Code Act 1913, Section 29
29. Immature age
A person under the age of 10 years is not criminally responsible
for any act or omission.
A person under the age of 14 years is not criminally responsible
for an act or omission, unless it is proved that at the time of
doing the act or making the omission he had capacity to know
that he ought not to do the act or make the omission.

Re: General fire discussions

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:37 pm
by BFB LT1
so he should be tried and found guilty

Re: General fire discussions

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:46 pm
by Zebedee
BFB LT1 wrote:so he should be tried and found guilty
Well if the two boys have been charged by the arson squad then I'm certain that they will be appearing in the Children's Court sometime soonish :)

As to what happens then -we'll just have to wait and see.

Re: General fire discussions

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:51 pm
by BFB LT1
through the book at them, i say

Re: General fire discussions

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:27 am
by Gohie
I am with you Zebedee. As a volunteer fire fighter too, I am insensed as the next citizen about arson, loss of potentetial life and property, and the finaniacial costs. However, where are we living - Iraq? We have laws, let the process work. If you are not happy with out democratic process, instead of shouting it out so that the loudest voice overwhlems reason, enter the process and change it with the set mechanisms - that is why my family came to Australia. Yes they are young and the damage extreme - but where were their parents and why where they not supervised. The problem is so complex. Sorry to get on my high box, but I hope I have not offended anyone - just adding my opinion to the discussion.

Re: General fire discussions

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:17 am
by written_ficton
Hang um to dry!

Re: General fire discussions

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:15 pm
by Ausrob
I think most kids even at 10 know not to light fires.