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silent_wingz wrote:LOL - Laugh Out Loud

Haha!

i wonder if hm681 can fill us in on what lolol is.........

ST_DOC wrote:We are limited to 20Kms over the speed limit subject to conditions in our series 4 scania. But she can pull harder than that.
I know SES specialises in a few different things but when we are at incidents the term sandwich eating service gets chucked around when you come back and they have destroyed all the food and refreshments. What does the rest of the SES do apart from the specialist teams?

SES is the combat agency for storm/cyclone damage. At the moment from my unit there's a small team in Port Hedland and a team that flew out today to do chainsaw work in Karratha for 4 or 5 days. We assist the police as a second port of call, after themselves for searches, occasionally the police will ask us to manage the search but at all times they're still in command. On the fire ground, once we've done modules 1-3 and now I believe it's just the "Preserve a FESA incident scene" then they can assist fire crews by dropping off water, and food, or bringing in relief crews. A couple of our members have had to follow around the Incident Controller (IC) and document exactly what he said and did, incase they needed it in court later.

Hi
i listen to the radio alot and there is some people going by like Toodyay SMO and Northam SMO what does "SMO" stand for.

Cheers
KAB

KAB wrote:Hi
i listen to the radio alot and there is some people going by like Toodyay SMO and Northam SMO what does "SMO" stand for.

Cheers
KAB

FMO. Fire Management Officer.

Ok thank you for that.

Cheers

KAB

Where can I find a list of what codes like "4-4" and "6-6" mean?

colin wrote:Where can I find a list of what codes like "4-4" and "6-6" mean?

http://warsug.info/viewtopic.php?t=316

colin wrote:Where can I find a list of what codes like "4-4" and "6-6" mean?

hi colin
i got this of another area i did not right this i am just passing it on.
4.4 no sign of fire investigating

6.6 fire sighted getting to work will then later call the alarm
1st alarm one brigade
2nd " " one other brigade
3rd " " most resources from area
4th " " really big need help from outside imedate area
8.8 GET THE HELL OUTTA tHERE............no............ just when its really big and they need immedeat assistance rarely hear this though

Thanks Fastlane and KAB.

Wangara called 8-8 at the Buckingham Drive fire today

In order to clarify this further, I will post the automatic repsponse for alarm levels as it relates to Bush Fires. There may be slight changes from the version I have.

First number is no. of Pumps.
My assumption is that Metro refers to the Gazetted Fire District
"Consider" generally means contact initially, and mobilise on confirmed incident. There are special pre-plans in place for particular areas which essentially respond 3rd alarm plus helitacs on notification of an incident in the area on particular fire danger days. For all incidents the OIC can respond specific and/or additional appliances outside the matrix below.

1st alarm
1 + 1 LT

2nd alarm (Metro)
2 + 2LT

2nd alarm (outside Metro)
2 to 5 Firefighting appliances

3rd alarm (Metro)
3 + 3LT's, OR, 2 + 3 LT's + 1 2.4U
1 FSM
1 2.4U or 3.4U
1 ICV
Consider: MLO, Police, Western Power

3rd alarm (non Metro)
6 to 9 Firefighting Appliances
1 FSM
1 x 2.4U/R or 3.4U/R
1 ICV
Consider: MLO, FIO, Western Power

4th alarm (metro)
4 + 4 LT
2 FSM
2 2.4U
1 ICV
Consider: Regional Director, FIO, MLO, Water Corp., Western Power, Police

4th alarm (non metro)
10 or more appliances.
1 FSM
2 x 2.4U/R or 3.4U/R
1 ICV
Consider: Regional Director, FIO, MLO, Water Corp., Western Power, Police

i heard they were going to bring in a new classification system.

good in my opinion,nothing against the old one but in a bushfire situation maybe it could make it easier to specify what they require and also give the local bfbs a chance to get there when its within the first hour.instead of having to be specifically asked for.

say level 1 second alarm,require 2 pumps and 2 lts
level 2 2nd alarm 2 pumps 2 LTs and local bfb closest to incident
level 3 2nd alarm other bfb in shire also required
then with 3rd alarm more frs and more bfs.


just food for thought.

chrissss wrote:i heard they were going to bring in a new classification system.

good in my opinion,nothing against the old one but in a bushfire situation maybe it could make it easier to specify what they require and also give the local bfbs a chance to get there when its within the first hour.instead of having to be specifically asked for.

say level 1 second alarm,require 2 pumps and 2 lts
level 2 2nd alarm 2 pumps 2 LTs and local bfb closest to incident
level 3 2nd alarm other bfb in shire also required
then with 3rd alarm more frs and more bfs.


just food for thought.

'levels' have existed for bushfire incidents for a while. they aren't alarm classifications though.

The alarms as I said, are a 'default', that is, the OIC has the ability to quickly classify the fire in terms of resources needed, and know what to expect. It is taught, and recommended, particularly for Bush Fires, that you specify the additional resources.

For instance, in the Metro area, you might call "3rd alarm, require 4x 2.4/3.4, and additional light tankers"

The OIC then knows he will get
3pumps, 3LT's (plus extras), FSM, 2.4U or 3.4U, ICV , plus the 4 tankers.

It is always up to the OIC to request the appropriate resources, and the classification just gives a guide. Often it takes a bit of time to request the BFS extras, as the OIC hasn't had a chance to conduct a thorough sizeup, and the extra resources responded can take the first half an hour to arrive and get to work. Plenty going on for the sucker in charge, particularly when he's trying to figure out what's on fire, where it is, who is there, and so on.