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According to tonights nine news police are using one or possibly more mobile command posts as booze buses this long weekend. Great idea. Why haven't they used them before.

Probably because they just use random patrol cars where as now it seems they're going to target more area's including the "not so common" booze bus locations.

...because someone decided to waste resources on traffic duties instead of targeting crime...

singkenten wrote:...because someone decided to waste resources on traffic duties instead of targeting crime...

What is the cost of not catching someone that is drink driving?? Someone else's life? Would you feel differently if it was a family member or significant other that was killed because of it?
Oh and then there is the law that states thou shalt not drive with a blood alcohol limit of greater than 0.05 unless thy want's to be in trouble with the law. If thou is on P plates or L plates thy limit is 0.02 unless thee requireth to lose ones license before it is even fully acquired.
So yeah I'm all for it.

Traffic offences ARE crimes....

traffic matters aren't crimes, they are exactly that traffic offences...

Despite the technicality you raised, it doesn't change the point Tyranus raised.

Yeah, but what I'm saying is there is much more useful ways to use all the resources that are pumped into the Booze buses... and it seems like there are only more and more resources getting pumped into them...

singkenten wrote:Yeah, but what I'm saying is there is much more useful ways to use all the resources that are pumped into the Booze buses... and it seems like there are only more and more resources getting pumped into them...

When you have attended fatal accidents involving alcohol or drug affected drivers, you understand that this is an essential area of enforcement that needs to have a large number of resources "pumped" into it. You only have to look at the number of cars parked up on the side of the road following a booze bus placement to see that the message does not seem to penetrate through the heads of a significant amount of drivers. There is also a massive cost to health resources and the greater community as a result of road vehicle trauma.

Lets hope for a fatality free easter....

I'd rather they catch the drunken idiot that might kill my family than the guy selling ½ ounce baggies.

if you committ an offense or break the law in any way, to me that is a crime whether it is minor or major.

robbage wrote:I'd rather they catch the drunken idiot that might kill my family than the guy selling ½ ounce baggies.

What if a number of people who brought the drugs died from taking them? Or if they killed someone (like a drunk driver could) whilst out-of-their-mind on them?

The problem is even if you have a booze bus setup on every single street, you will still have those who don't care and will drink and drive anyway. Booze bus setups are like multinovas - they are little more than a deterrent and a way to catch those not 'street smart' (i.e. don't know where the setups are). It is these 'street smart' drunks who are the real concern, in my opinion.

However, it will certainly make for a good trial run, and I do support it as long as they have sufficient number of other police keeping the other just as important crimes at bay.

xli wrote:

robbage wrote:I'd rather they catch the drunken idiot that might kill my family than the guy selling ½ ounce baggies.

What if a number of people who brought the drugs died from taking them? Or if they killed someone (like a drunk driver could) whilst out-of-their-mind on them?

The problem is even if you have a booze bus setup on every single street, you will still have those who don't care and will drink and drive anyway. Booze bus setups are like multinovas - they are little more than a deterrent and a way to catch those not 'street smart' (i.e. don't know where the setups are). It is these 'street smart' drunks who are the real concern, in my opinion.

However, it will certainly make for a good trial run, and I do support it as long as they have sufficient number of other police keeping the other just as important crimes at bay.

Yeah I was going to say try telling that to Claire Murray's family

xli wrote:What if a number of people who brought the drugs died from taking them? Or if they killed someone (like a drunk driver could) whilst out-of-their-mind on them?

What if they didn't? The point is to do something.
If you don't make an effort to deter people from driving while under the influence then anybody who feels like it will drive under the influence. Same deal with police chases. Stop chasing and anybody who feels like it will drive off.

xli wrote:Booze bus setups are like multinovas - they are little more than a deterrent and a way to catch those not 'street smart' (i.e. don't know where the setups are). It is these 'street smart' drunks who are the real concern, in my opinion.

So what you seem to be saying is that remove all booze buses and Multanovas and it will have no effect? I know different because I've seen the difference for both deterrents. So long as they saved a life, I'm satisfied.

xli wrote:However, it will certainly make for a good trial run, and I do support it as long as they have sufficient number of other police keeping the other just as important crimes at bay.

Well there's the same old problem... not enough police (and teachers and ES personnel and nurses and ∞)

singkenten wrote:traffic matters aren't crimes, they are exactly that traffic offences...

Oh that is just utterly crap...

Having dealt with my fare share of RTA's, alcohol is the most common factor that causes these problems. When you count the damage to other peoples property etc etc it is a crime, they need to be locked up...