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Post by Lucas_arts_182 » Thu May 22, 2008 10:11 pm

Ive been told about how people walk into a police station with firearms to get them registerd, its like holding a neon sign above your head saying i have broken the law multiple times on the way here....

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Post by robbage » Fri May 23, 2008 5:08 pm

Lucas_arts_182 wrote:Ive been told about how people walk into a police station with firearms to get them registerd, its like holding a neon sign above your head saying i have broken the law multiple times on the way here....
Could be worse. Could be fully automatic, loaded, actioned, safe off, finger inside guard, pointed at you or I :)
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Post by vk6hgr » Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:00 pm

On a related topic:

Does anyone know what the law is regarding owning and carrying knives? If you have a pocketknife in your car glovebox is that 'concealed' (if it matters)...?
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Post by Tyranus » Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:46 pm

I shouldn't think a pocket knife would be a problem. I'd be busted big time if that was the case. I carry my multi tool and a folding knife with me in my SES bags which 90% of the time are in the car. I think if you had a K-Bar or something like that, then quite possibly yes it may be a problem.
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Post by herrgott » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:37 pm

Have a look in the Weapons Act and refer to the Schedules under the Weapons Regulations.

Depends on the item, can depend on the intent for use of the item.

'Concealment' doesn't have anything to do with anything. Possessing and carrying [two different things, legally] is what you have to worry about - as well as the item matching anything listed on the Schedules [controlled, prohibited, and other].

Look at lasers, for example. They're now in the Schedules, but as per usual you just need to have a lawful reason for having it [teaching classes etc].

The Weapons Act isn't a big one, you can read it over at the State Law Publisher website.
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Post by vk6hgr » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:38 pm

herrgott wrote:Have a look in the Weapons Act and refer to the Schedules for that act.
Thanks. I was looking through the Criminal Code.
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Post by herrgott » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:49 pm

I just editted my post to say that the Schedules, from memory, are in the Weapons Regulations, not the act. Although the act has the offences listed.

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Post by Zebedee » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:13 pm

herrgott wrote:Depends on the item, can depend on the intent for use of the item.
Yep - which is why I've had a simple pocketknife with assorted gadgets in a pouch on my belt or in my pocket since I was in high school (which is getting to be a distressingly long time ago :P )

My interpretation of the Weapons Act and Regulations is that a simple pocket knife is neither a prohibited nor controlled weapon. Of course the law also can consider any item to be a weapon if it's being used as one.

So I'm comfortable and confident that if I'm ever asked why I carry a pocketknife, my reasons will be perfectly acceptable.
The Weapons Act isn't a big one, you can read it over at the State Law Publisher website.
In fact, here's the direct links ...

Weapons Act

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Post by nvrenuf » Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:58 pm

So im assuming it would not be legal to go buy this item and
use it for photo shoots and have it in a bag or car to and from locations.

looking at the site doesnt mention anything about laws or buying them
you can order online easy enough ?

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http://www.wellingtonsurplus.com.au/sho ... T+WEIGHTED

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Post by herrgott » Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:16 pm

The Firearms Act applies to firearms and may have your answers there if you have a look through the State Law Publisher's website.

To the best of my memory without any research, if it has no ability to fire then simple possession is not illegal. Again, intent can and does make a difference.

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Post by jasonjag » Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:39 pm

herrgott wrote:The Firearms Act applies to firearms and may have your answers there if you have a look through the State Law Publisher's website.

To the best of my memory without any research, if it has no ability to fire then simple possession is not illegal. Again, intent can and does make a difference.
As Far as I know they are illegal to own or be in possesion of,,,,,,does the shop keeper with one pointed in their face, know its real or not,, even if its made of a plastic replica of a gun, as Herrgott quotes, intent can and does make a difference... go to the zpolice and get your answer or permit from them face to face...jj

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Post by Night_Ryder » Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:10 am

JJ I can assure you that they are legal, in this state. Its not as though you buy it and walk out, they take down the serial number down and also write down your DL number. It is impossible to shoot real rounds using the gun for three reasons
1, the magazine isnt the right size and its impossble to feed more than one real round into the magazine.
2. If you try to chamber the one real round you put in the magazine, the force of the action will jam the real round in the gun, making it verrrryyyy hard to retrieve.
3. even if you some how correctly chamber a real round, as soon as you fire it the front end of the gun will explode because they cannot handle the pressure.
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Post by CHEV4EVR » Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:04 am

Again for those with short attention spans
CHEV4EVR wrote:Replica pistols are classified as a Controlled Weapon under The Weapons Act. They are defined as Controlled Weapon under schedule 2 of the Weapons Regulations (Item 10, Imitation Firearm).They are offence to possess, even at home. Only authorised collectors with an exemption from the Minister can possess them (good luck trying to get an exemption. If you do can you hand me my hens tooth back.)

Penalty $4,000 and/or 1yr Imprisonment. If you have no desire to have a firearms licence feel free to keep it, I am sure it is much more fun than a real gun.

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Post by Reevesy » Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:21 pm

Ok, if they ARE illegal. Why can they be bought from shops?
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