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[JG-103]

Hey Chev, i would presume a lot of things wouldnt be mentioned on the radio so as a chase wouldnt be aborted, especially late at night whith no one around as at the time of that incident, why would they tell vki when it didnt put anyones lives at danger (except the crim) and ur close to catching him, last thing u would want is for it to be aborted, lose him and have to go back and do enquiries or what have you.

Jmmw:
Q:How do u know if i did it on a road or at the drag strip????
A:U dont.

Let me end by saying there is always two sides to everystory, maybe we need to hear both sides before making presumtions.

[just.nosey]

I disagree Chris not everyone on here has gone to have a look at a job they have heard on the scanner.

I know I haven't, I have a scanner at home, but not in the car. I very much doubt Chev, Danny, BF, or Whiskey 1 or any of the other coppers in this forum have either. They see enough crap while at work and I doubt they are going to go look at more out of work hours in fact I would be surprised if any of the above persons even have a scanner.

The greater part of my working day or night is spent in a car travelling around the metro area bounded by Clarkson to the North, Byford to the South East, Munster to the South West, and Mundaring to the East averaging around 150,000 km's a year.

I have come across things more than once in my travels and actually assisted a cop arrest a baddie once by disarming him of his knife and pinning him to the ground while the copper cuffed him once he caught up (lol) but I certainly don't go looking for them as I have better things to do than waste my time playing pretend cop or frustrated cop.

No offence implied or intended to any copper on this forum I think you Guys and Gals do a top job that is far from easy in very trying times which is clearly not appreciated by our current state government.

[Walks]

Hey walks, on the flip side, maybe the vehicle stop prevented the cop car later going on to have a 316 with a car. Maybe it didnt, how can u tell? Maybe the POI/'s where long gone and the cop car wouldnt have found them anyway, maybe that few minutes it took to check my car resulted in the cop car to cross paths with the POI/'s where as if they hadnt of- they wouldnt hav.

What im trying to say is that no one knows wether the cops having to do a quick 2 min search of my vehicle prevented the POI/'s from getting away or not, its all what ifs (unless if you can see the future and know for certain that if they hadnt have checked my car the offenders would have been caught).

Thats my opinion

Of course there are a thousand different what if's. If you want to chase jobs on the scanner, that's your choice of action. Everyone has expressed their views. I'll leave it at that.

Walks.

[BF]

Actually just.nosey, I do have a scanner and I used to listen to it regularly. Unfortunately as I've got older I rarely use it anymore because, as you say, I hear it everyday and I'm not that interested outside of work hours anymore.

JG103, I may sound like I'm a fence sitter here, but I agree with both sides of the discussion.

I agree that you have the right to drive or go wherever you like at what ever time, but also Police have to be able to do their job without interference from people external to the incident.

I personally have no problem with people having a sticky beak at an incident as long as that's all they're doing. I don't appreciate people getting involved when I haven't asked for their help. Don't get me wrong, I've had fantastic help several times from civvies arresting offenders, but only when I've asked for their help.

The problem arises when for instance you have a stolen car on fire after a pursuit and people are standing 3 metres from the car having a look. Not only does it put there lives in danger when the car finally explodes, because they do, but as a Police Officer you don't need the added stress of looking after these people as well as offenders, traffic other coppers etc.

So basically my advise is time, place, circumstance. Just use your common sense. But if you get in the way, don't expect a friendly chat or pat on the back, because you'll probably get the exact opposite.

[GC101]

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[Whiskey1Urgent]

You hit the nail right on the head BF.. I think you'll find the majority of those in the job dont realy mind people who are interested.. Hell if people weren't interested in what happens out there, we'd all be living in anarchy and be getting no help at all.. Just those who do go and have a 'bo-peep', don't get in the way of a job..

You may be getting in the way but you never know if K9 have quietly snuck into the job and you DON'T want to be an the business end of the dog..

It isn't plesant..

[jmmw]

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[Zebedee]

You may be getting in the way but you never know if K9 have quietly snuck into the job and you DON'T want to be an the business end of the dog..

It isn't plesant..

What, you mean "awwwwww nice doggie" doesn't work?!?

Damn!

So basically my advise is time, place, circumstance. Just use your common sense.

Heh. I think everybody should have that tattooed somewhere that it can be read every day - it applies to a heck of a lot more than scanning!

[just.nosey]

A German Shepherd in an agitated or excited state of mind is capable of 100 bites a minute and thats going to hurt I don't care who you are.

[just.nosey]

BF the primary point I was making was if you heard something on the scanner while you were off duty that it's unlikely that you would go and have a look. Secondry was whether you have a scanner or not.

I accept that should you hear a call for urgent assistance (Police in Trouble) and the closest back up was some distance away say 10 minutes and you were only say 2 minutes there is a very good chance you might go and help out and that goes for every copper on here.

I know if I was passing and happend to see a copper or coppers getting a hiding (I don't know if you can say getting the living shit kicked out of him/her/them in here) I would be out of my car in a flash and I would give the coppers any assistance they needed.

I am disciplined in more than one of the martial arts (black belt or better in each) and don't have any problem getting most people to comply with my requests.

That said I don't go looking for trouble and I don't go sticking my nose where it's not needed or wanted.

[Whiskey1Urgent]

That's good to hear Just.nosey... I'd hope that people would come to assist the 'blue bloods' when we need it... I don't think that was ever the issue..

I think that BF was just letting those in the thread know that not all of us 'in the job' are as open to members of the public leaping in to help or cruising past a job... A lot of prejudice are still out there and some people out there unfortunately will go look for a job and get uppity and quite if they saw something they didn't like (ie a arrest where a fair amount of force was needed etc).. Those 'in the job' who have been bitten by nosey members of the public in the past will more than likely start moving the 'rubber neckers' (and I'm not being derogetory when I say that) off the scene to reduce the likeliness of having that sort of problem again..

It'll be interesting to see what those in the forum will think and say when they see this new show "Aussie Cops" that was filmed and made here in Perth when its released Australia wide on Channel Seven in the near future.. It'll be interesting to see what the 'boys and girls in blue' think too..

[just.nosey]

Aussie Cops? Have they changed the name again? It was going to be called something else.

I wasn't having a shot at anyone in particular in regard to people rocking up to jobs but thinking back to a murder in the northern suburbs a few years back where there were reports of a disturbance at an address.

Two cars went (one to back up) and then a third who happend to have a Sergent on board.

The car with the Sergent on board was either 1st or 2nd to book off at the scene.

His next words to VKI after booking off at the scene was "I am declaring this a crime scene". I will always remember those words and particularly the chill in his voice.

You might remember the one i'm talking about. In the weeks that followed it saw a "now Superintendant" go for a swim (from memory) off Hillarys or Mullaloo to stop the now convicted husband from committing suicide.

Anyway I digress:

The point I am trying to make is I would rather be anywhere else than trying to explain to a copper that I was being Nosey and I didn't have anything to do with the crime.

If one isn't there they can't be involved.

[Whiskey1Urgent]

Yep, I remember the job.. And I agree with your last sentence too..

I don't think they've changed the name of the show, I just remembered the old one they did locally back in the early nineties..

The clothes, the cars, the crappy revolvers... What a tragedy !!!

[Fastlane]

Yep, I remember the job.. And I agree with your last sentence too..

I don't think they've changed the name of the show, I just remembered the old one they did locally back in the early nineties..

The clothes, the cars, the crappy revolvers... What a tragedy !!!

You mean they've actually fixed the crappy revolvers?

[just.nosey]

Now your showing your age lol. I had a couple of drinks with the crew at the Windsor in South Perth including the director and he said it was going to be called "The Force"