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Frequencies, Callsigns and discussion on the WA Police Service radio (VKI)

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Markmywords wrote:police escorts while all good in theory there better off spent at the intersection holding the traffic and letting the ambulance pass then going to the next as such.
I agree. i think its much safer and effective to have them stop each intersection.

a family member of mine got a police escort from Royal Perth Hospital to Shenton Park rehab centre. His ambulance had an escort because he was in Spinal Traction and apparently they have to avoid the jolts from starting and stopping.

Im not entirely sure if they used an ambulance or PTV though...

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Why would it be an ambulance, munchkin? From what I understand, PTV's can do Priority transfers, and they're manned by paramedics...
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ptv do not have the l&s and can only do a limited things
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Exactly! That is why they have the escort. I was sitting at lights at the corner of Thomas and Kings Park Roads wondering why the lights were taking so long to change and next thing the police bike comes into the middle of the intersection, followed by a car and the the RPH PTV.
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From the stock checklist on the intranet munchkin, you would be pleasantly surprised what's in the PTV's. They do infact have amber warning lights and can be used for priority transfers, but there MUST be a Police escort.
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Schism_ wrote:From the stock checklist on the intranet munchkin, you would be pleasantly surprised what's in the PTV's. They do infact have amber warning lights and can be used for priority transfers, but there MUST be a Police escort.
PTV are manned by transport officers in most cases not paramedics. The difference is not what is stocked in the vehicles but what the officers are qualified to do. PTV officers do a 8 week cse then there on the road ( not having a go as they do a great job and are normally under the pump ) and are limited to only a few basic drugs whereas a paramedic does year of uni then 14 weeks before being let loose on the public

A reason may have been that they would be conducting a transport and the patient went critical and therefore asked or were given an escort due to them not having priority status or L&S fitted ( yes they have a few ambers but no lightbar or siren fitted) and would be quicker than waiting and handing over to an ambulance.
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What he said.
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in our training this week we have had it drummed into us if the pt has anything else but a saline drip and is critical it goes to a para crew not ptv so if the have a saline drip and stable not life threatening they can go in a ptv
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This was RPH's own PTV not SJA. Perhaps it was used because it is set up for the spinal contraption that the patients are hooked up to whereas SJA vehicles may not be able to accomodate them. Has anyone driven for RPH?
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RPh did have 2 f250 ambulances that were fitted with lights sirens (going back a while now) (one of them is now stationed at ascot for the races) then they went to a van with one red light and siren and now you'll notice its a plain white van with minimal red striping-thats the van they use and you may see being escotted by police between rph and shenton park.
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What training do the Western Power UDD drivers do? Why do they only have the reds and not the reds and blues? What sort of incidents require them to use lights and sirens?
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Toottoot wrote:What training do the Western Power UDD drivers do? Why do they only have the reds and not the reds and blues? What sort of incidents require them to use lights and sirens?
Downed Power lines, threatning lives, potential danger to poles falling onto roads, residential areas etc... They get called in to isolate the power, before emergency crews move in.

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Toottoot wrote:What training do the Western Power UDD drivers do? Why do they only have the reds and not the reds and blues? What sort of incidents require them to use lights and sirens?
On top of what Mr G said, the most common reason I know of is with car crashes.

If a car takes out a power pole, Ambo's and Cops need to power off to make the area safe.
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Kinetic wrote:
Toottoot wrote:What training do the Western Power UDD drivers do? Why do they only have the reds and not the reds and blues? What sort of incidents require them to use lights and sirens?
On top of what Mr G said, the most common reason I know of is with car crashes.

If a car takes out a power pole, Ambo's and Cops need to power off to make the area safe.
Thanks Kinetic - I've also heard that Firies won't attempt rescue if live power lines are in the area as well - am i right?
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gkoutlis wrote:
Kinetic wrote:
Toottoot wrote:What training do the Western Power UDD drivers do? Why do they only have the reds and not the reds and blues? What sort of incidents require them to use lights and sirens?
On top of what Mr G said, the most common reason I know of is with car crashes.

If a car takes out a power pole, Ambo's and Cops need to power off to make the area safe.
Thanks Kinetic - I've also heard that Firies won't attempt rescue if live power lines are in the area as well - am i right?
Yeah. If a car has taken down power lines, Western Power need to cut power before any else happens.

I know they sometimes attend under lights and Sirens to house fires.
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