Police Shooting Floreat Officer Stabbed

BLiNG · Post by **BLiNG** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:14 pm

I thought there was a pursuit.

Oh well, the offender got what he deserved didn't he. I hope the officer is doing well.

dazla · Post by **dazla** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:27 pm

Hope the officer makes a full and speedy recovery.

FlashPoint · Post by **FlashPoint** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:04 am

Oh well, the offender got what he deserved didn't he

I really dont see how the offender deserved too be killed, We have a judicial system for a reason.
Anyways I hope the officer gets well soon and the officer that did the shooting gets what he/she deserves, and it's not a pat on the back.

This is not too start an argument about weather it was justified, just my lil old opinion

Bungarra · Post by **Bungarra** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:20 am

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Anyways I hope the officer gets well soon and the officer that did the shooting gets what he/she deserves, and it's not a pat on the back.
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Split second to make a decision, not a choice I would want to have to make. The POI should have thought about what the consequences would be. He placed the bet and lost.

Walks · Post by **Walks** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:43 am

FlashPoint wrote:
Oh well, the offender got what he deserved didn't he
I really dont see how the offender deserved too be killed, We have a judicial system for a reason.

**Edited to care for the sensitive people on this site**

FlashPoint wrote:Anyways I hope the officer gets well soon and the officer that did the shooting gets what he/she deserves.,and it's not a pat on the back.

Split second decision when someone armed is stabbing you????? two in the chest in anyones books.

FlashPoint wrote:This is not too start an argument about weather it was justified, just my lil old opinion

An opinion made with no facts to back it up. Of course it's gonna start a fight.

Walks.

HEKTIK · Post by **HEKTIK** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:39 am

Is a vehicle failing to stop automatically considered a pursuit?

thrill of the Chase · Post by **thrill of the Chase** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:03 am

the loss of any life is tragic no matter the reason

i think we should cool our heels a little until all the facts come out

1. what was the reason for the chase

2. the mental state of the of all concerned

3. besides the obvious reason why was a firearm discharged

it also just builds my case for Tazzzzzzzer's to be standard for all officers

remember a large number of these tragic events grow from domestics
and let anyone here who has not had a domestic of anytype stand now so we can see what perfect is.

on the other case if the victim of the shooting was attacking the officer and not trying to flee (eg if he went out of his way to commit the act of stabbing) then its cause and effect.

please just remember that every person sees things through their own eyes, and they have the right to voice it

now i will get off my soap box

thank you

Donga · Post by **Donga** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:52 am

Sad start to the year so far 4 deaths in the one week as a result of firearms. Only one of those deaths had a valid reason an officer using it to prevent himself and possibly others from being killed. We in WA are quite lucky this would have to be one of the first fatal shooting from a poilce officer in the line of duty that I can remember. Just about every year you hear atleast once on the news about fatal police shootings in other states We are lucky that we have some of the best trained police in the world in my opinion.

Post by **gkoutlis** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:34 am

HEKTIK wrote:Is a vehicle failing to stop automatically considered a pursuit?

No its not considered a pursuit - unless the permission to engage has been permitted by the Radio Supervisor - so i heard anyway....

MDJL · Post by **MDJL** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:02 am

thrill of the Chase wrote: it also just builds my case for Tazzzzzzzer's to be standard for all officers

thank you

Tazer vs Knife.. I don't think so.. Tazer's certainly have their place but are no replacement to lethal force.. Someone comes at you with a knife they are trying to do serious harm or kill you.. Firearm's are totally justified and should be PRIMARY option..

As for the comments re the officer gets what he deserves.. Grow Up. He deserves a medal.. Someone has just stabbed him/his partner and he/she reacted accordingly.

thrill of the Chase · Post by **thrill of the Chase** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:53 am

Tazer vs Knife.. I don't think so.. Tazer's certainly have their place but are no replacement to lethal force.. Someone comes at you with a knife they are trying to do serious harm or kill you.. Firearm's are totally justified and should be PRIMARY option..

what is the difference of pulling a glock from your holster and releasing a round into an offender

and pulling your tazzer from your holster and shooting two barbs connected to cables into an offender

there are several styles of tazzers the unit i am talking about is used the same way as a firearm

i am not sure of the max distance the cables reach but for it to be currently used around the world they must be determined to be safe

Just my 5cents worth

But i respect your point of view

Robo · Post by **Robo** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:01 am

thrill of the Chase wrote:Tazer vs Knife.. I don't think so.. Tazer's certainly have their place but are no replacement to lethal force.. Someone comes at you with a knife they are trying to do serious harm or kill you.. Firearm's are totally justified and should be PRIMARY option..

what is the difference of pulling a glock from your holster and releasing a round into an offender

and pulling your tazzer from your holster and shooting two barbs connected to cables into an offender

there are several styles of tazzers the unit i am talking about is used the same way as a firearm

i am not sure of the max distance the cables reach but for it to be currently used around the world they must be determined to be safe

Just my 5cents worth

But i respect your point of view

Tazers have a hjgh failure rate, either they dont discharge or the barbs dont hit the right spot. Not a risk I would like to take after being stabbed. In this scenario the officer did exactly the right thing. I hope he gets a medal.

I would not say the offender deserved it but he made the choice to try and stab the officers and he got himself killed as a result. Rather him dead than the officer any day of the week.

I hope this does not turn into a thread where so called experts come on and say what they think should have happened and critisize a descision that an officer had 2 seconds to make.

BLiNG · Post by **BLiNG** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:52 am

There are some bloody naive people out there!

The only question that should be asked is... "did the officer fear for his life?" Yes? Bang. Offender dead. End of story to me.

Sure an investigation is warranted, and the truth will come out. But I don't think anyone on this forum would honestly say "If I got stabbed in the arm or shoulder I wouldn't be fearing for my life" and you would only be lying to yourself if you did.

I don't think a fight is needed. Time and time again the same thing is said and that is picture yourself in that officer's shoes. Would you really be arguing a tazer is a better idea? Pfft. Hell no. You know it, we know it.

MEH!

ryno · Post by **ryno** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:19 pm

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Post by **Zebedee** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:29 pm

Robo wrote:I would not say the offender deserved it but he made the choice to try and stab the officers and he got himself killed as a result. Rather him dead than the officer any day of the week.

Of course the ideal situation is that nobody's dead, but there are times and circumstances where that's just not possible. By the sounds of it, this was unfortunately one of those times...

I think saying the baddie "deserved it" is a little on the harsh side, but I can understand the sentiment. I'd just word it more along the lines of "the baddie faced the consequences of his actions."

Robo wrote:I hope this does not turn into a thread where so called experts come on and say what they think should have happened and critisize a descision that an officer had 2 seconds to make.

There's always going to be so-called experts, and second guessers (unfortunately). However hopefully there's cooler heads on the investigating team, who have access to all the relevant info and can come to a decision based on the facts rather than guesswork, supposition and opinion.