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Ive been seeing something lately that has got me curious. I see some P`s going around that are the usual sort of white on red scheme but im now also seeing ones that are white on green, is there a reason for these new green ones or are they just the latest in P plater fashion?

It depends on what stage they are at in their probation. I think red is for night time restrictions, green is for when the restrictions are lifted.

Stupid choice of colours if you ask me - red and green are the two colours most confused by colour blind people.

Red P's = Under 6 months, night time restriction.

Green P's = Over 6 months on P's, ala "normal" P's.

EDIT: People shouldn't be using the old red and white anymore.

Thanks guys

WPXZBP wrote:It depends on what stage they are at in their probation. I think red is for night time restrictions, green is for when the restrictions are lifted.

Stupid choice of colours if you ask me - red and green are the two colours most confused by colour blind people.

well if it is mainly for the police to notice, then hopefully at least 1 officer in the car is able to see colours normally..

Or I guess if your driving to make sure you avoid them haha. I have heard after the recent death of P drivers that they will probably put in more restrictions + stages so it might change again and again.

I remember when I went for my P's all I had to do was goto the licensing center pass a 10 answer L's online test, got given my L's and just booked a date to do the P's test. If I failed it I failed it and had to come back in a month. There was no 'minimum' limit or logbook or anything like that, you could either drive or not .

Should have made it white on green for stage one, red on white (as per previously usual) for stage two.

Should have made it white on green for stage one, red on white (as per previously usual) for stage two.

woobla1 wrote:I remember when I went for my P's all I had to do was goto the licensing center pass a 10 answer L's online test, got given my L's and just booked a date to do the P's test. If I failed it I failed it and had to come back in a month. There was no 'minimum' limit or logbook or anything like that, you could either drive or not .

I remember when you passed the test if you knew how to crank the model-T without running yourself over. Course back then, petrol was 5c a gallon. And the drive to work was up-hill both ways.

Hey mate,

This legislation law change became effective on 30 June 2008.

I received a letter a week before that, and in the envelope it included a set of double-sided P-Plates (White P on red background and green on the other side).

You display the red background one for the first six months of getting your driver's license after you complete that Hazard Perception Test. During the first six months you can't drive during 12 midnight to 5 am unless you apply for an exception (due to work commitments, etc.).

Then after that you can display the green background one which removes the silly restriction.

Now supposedly, the penalty for driving during the night-time restriction when you're restricted is being classified as an unlicensed driver and a penalty of $200 and 2 demerit points.

In my opinion the restriction is silly and has caused a slight inconvenience for me when I want to go for a late outing with my mates, but I only have 3 more months to go so it's not too bad.

perthskies wrote:In my opinion the restriction is silly and has caused a slight inconvenience for me when I want to go for a late outing with my mates, but I only have 3 more months to go so it's not too bad.

This might be one reason why it was brought in, in the first place. ES people (like many of the people here!) are sick of scraping young P-platers off the roads. My step son is your age and is at the same stage with his licence and he thinks the new regulations are a great move. He also did a defensive driving course and thinks it should be a mandatory part of getting off p-plates.

In my case it was a rare occasion of having dinner at Northbridge in Perth, watching the movie Tropic Thunder at the Piccadilly Cinema on Hay St in Perth, and then heading down to Burswood Casino. And before you know it, time flies... (I knew I would not be able to drive by the time the evening was over so got my friend to drive instead)

Me and my mates are responsible people. We don't fall under the "hoon" category if that was what you were maybe implying!

It's unfortunate though that a proportion of P-platers ruin the image of the ones that really do try to do the right thing. I really do respect the emergency services efforts to curb the ones that insist on embarking on dangeorus driving speeds.

On a side note, it seems that getting a driver's license is becoming more complicated and difficult than it was many years ago, according to my parents.

I hate it when people generalise with provisional drivers. They are sooo wrong when it comes to what the problem is. They think its the high powered cars, so they ban P platers driving V8s, yet you can get little 4 cylinder cars going just as fast and V6s are just as bad. All thats going to happen is you will get modified V6s and 4 cylinders. I dont drive fast and race people, and the majority of P platers do the right thing yet we cop all the punishments. I can assure you that we hate the guys mucking it up for everyone else. From my experience, which most will consider limited as I would consider it otherwise, the problem is that they dont get to have fun in cars so they do it when they get on the road for the first time by the first time. I grew up on a farm and growing up enjoyed driving around doing burnouts, we even rolled one of them once, however as I got older I had learnt that a car is just a means of transport and I dont see it as a status symbol nor do I cruise around at night. Yet, it is annoying that I am limited to not being able to drive after 12am because thats when I drive down south so I get there early.

woobla1 wrote:

WPXZBP wrote:It depends on what stage they are at in their probation. I think red is for night time restrictions, green is for when the restrictions are lifted.

Stupid choice of colours if you ask me - red and green are the two colours most confused by colour blind people.

well if it is mainly for the police to notice, then hopefully at least 1 officer in the car is able to see colours normally..

Or I guess if your driving to make sure you avoid them haha. I have heard after the recent death of P drivers that they will probably put in more restrictions + stages so it might change again and again.

I remember when I went for my P's all I had to do was goto the licensing center pass a 10 answer L's online test, got given my L's and just booked a date to do the P's test. If I failed it I failed it and had to come back in a month. There was no 'minimum' limit or logbook or anything like that, you could either drive or not .

Maybe they picked those colours because of the colour blindness issue.

If you think about it, colour only becomes an issue between midnight and five am anyway. When its dark and even more so behind a tinted window they look even more similar also. If a police patrol sees a P plater during these hours they have the right to stop and check because after all how hard is it to switch the plates over just to get home.

Reevesy wrote:... the majority of P platers do the right thing yet we cop all the punishments. I can assure you that we hate the guys mucking it up for everyone else.

That's something I've always believed - that it's the few idiots who end up being highly visible and ruining it for everyone else.

It's a shame that the people who are trying to do the right thing and drive responsibly get stuck with the same restrictions as those who choose to drive like morons.

woobla1 wrote:Part quote there of,,,
I remember when I went for my P's all I had to do was goto the licensing center pass a 10 answer L's online test, got given my L's and just booked a date to do the P's test. If I failed it I failed it and had to come back in a month. There was no 'minimum' limit or logbook or anything like that, you could either drive or not .

I can laugh at you younger ones who went through P's etc, not in my day, went to Moora cop shop, paid my 10 Shillings and got your licence, Dad says to the rookie cop, are you not taking him for a test drive, Naw, seen him driving around town before, she be right mate,,hahahahaa,,,jj