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is it safe to use a handheld tranceiver at 5W?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:33 pm
by slipknot
hi all.
Im a little worried that becuase ive used a Handheld CB radio for about 3 years. does anyone know if its safe to use them?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:09 pm
by Nick
We teach on the comms course, Low power next to head, high power away from body Via external handpiece. The jury is still out on whether long term exposure causes problems hence better safe than sorry in later life.
Nick

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:20 pm
by slipknot
I guess its less then the exposure people get from using mobile phones i guess.

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:44 pm
by WPXZBP
More power, lower frequency from a UHF CB handheld.

As was noted, the jury is still out but from a basic physics standpoint, the higher the frequency, the greater the energy and the greater the damage the could be caused.

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:19 pm
by robbage
Much like smoking, the people that have a vested interest in equipment that uses RF have a strong influence on the information that winds its way to the user. As a primary defence contractor, we are required to have RF exposure training. The information we get is a little more honest.
Wes is totally correct on the aspect of higher frequency=higher danger. Mobile phones are much less power than a 5w CB, but the freq is a lot higher and some people tend to spend a lot more time on a phone. Those hands-free earphone thingies are better but they also radiate. Why they don't have ferrite beads I'll never know. So to answer your question: How long is a piece of string? Get the mike/earpiece thingie.

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:05 pm
by slipknot
but then again, they dont use high gain antennas, they are only rubber duckie antennas, does this make it safer?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:21 pm
by robbage
slipknot wrote:but then again, they dont use high gain antennas, they are only rubber duckie antennas, does this make it safer?
It makes them safer than a hand-held with a full size ¼ wave or a high gain, yes. It's wasted power, though. I guess this would have been on the F course but the rule of thumb is to use the least amount of power that's needed to get the job done. Also, wear a tinfoil hat :)

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:30 pm
by Bonez
If you listen to a metro repeater channel and hear the all of the spastics on there you will quickly find out really how much damage 5W can do to you...

Just kidding :) I've been using handhelds for years and to be honest I worry more about using my mobile phone than using a hand-held radio.

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:15 pm
by robbage
Bonez wrote:If you listen to a metro repeater channel and hear the all of the spastics on there you will quickly find out really how much damage 5W can do to you...
Thanks for making me choke on my ice-cream :-)

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:24 pm
by vk6hgr
Well I dunno about CB but amateurs have had their heads in close proximity to high RF fields for a long time, and we're all perfectly normal...

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:14 pm
by Zebedee
vk6hgr wrote:Well I dunno about CB but amateurs have had their heads in close proximity to high RF fields for a long time, and we're all perfectly normal...
Hmmmmmmmmm ;)

and we're all perfectly normal.

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:30 pm
by jasonjag
Zebedee wrote:
vk6hgr wrote:Well I dunno about CB but amateurs have had their heads in close proximity to high RF fields for a long time, and we're all perfectly normal...
Hmmmmmmmmm ;)
Gavin says: quote: and we're all perfectly normal...[/quote]

Doug says: Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I say : there is few that are not normal.. lol

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:49 pm
by playworth
i wonder if he delete that and throw a book @ you for saying that hahahaa

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:59 pm
by Bonez
vk6hgr wrote:Well I dunno about CB but amateurs have had their heads in close proximity to high RF fields for a long time, and we're all perfectly normal...


I really wanted to comment to this post but I don't think I can, without saying something that will offend anyone.

Some of us are normal, some others are not so normal!

But we are all here for one reason - to share a great hobby and to interact with others who share the same interests :)

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:52 pm
by robbage
What's normal? If almost everybody is insane, then the sane person isn't normal. And they sure as hell don't belong in this forum either 8-)