Page 1 of 2

Final DC3 flights in perth (possibly)

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:31 pm
by Nafenn
guys, i received word of mouth through the grapevine that on friday and saturday the last fligts of classic wings will be flying.

If anyone is interested, the aircraft callsign is most likely "charlie whiskey mike", and will be heard on jandakot tower: 118.10 and perth radar: 132.25 . I cannot remember the flight times, nor can i look them up at the moment as i am flat on my back in bed, with sfa wifi reception :-)

Re: Final DC3 flights in perth (possibly)

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:41 am
by Always RX
I think you mean "Charlie Whiskey Sierra" :D . It's a shame the business couldnt survive here. It will be interesting to see what Rob has planned for her now.

Re: Final DC3 flights in perth (possibly)

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:40 pm
by Helitak_670
Actually David owns the aircraft.

Re: Final DC3 flights in perth (possibly)

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:53 pm
by Nafenn
Helitak_670 wrote:Actually David owns the aircraft.
i thought Bill did? I know Dave and Bill both have ratings, but i was fairly sure that Bill was the owner.

had the flight today... was a lovely flight, and it was CWS... whoops :P

hopefully it remains in perth and airworthy, but if it doesn't, i'm glad i had the chance to be on it :)

Re: Final DC3 flights in perth (possibly)

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:47 pm
by Nafenn
ADMIN EDIT:

OK, just to keep things tidy and in their proper order, since both Nathan and I have posted pics of the plane and flight, I've split those out to a separate thread in the Pictures section:

http://warsug.info/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=5517&start=0


Cheers,
Doug.

Re: Final DC3 flights in perth (possibly)

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:07 pm
by Mug
Is that a yellow fire extinguisher in the radio equipment shot?
I am led to believe they are illegal for some reason?

I know the ch10 heli has one, you can see it in the background when the do a live cross from it.

Re: Final DC3 flights in perth (possibly)

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:15 pm
by WPXZBP
Not illegal on aircraft.

Re: Final DC3 flights in perth (possibly)

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:57 pm
by Mug
WPXZBP wrote:Not illegal on aircraft.
Really? I picked up a flyer from FESA a few years ago advising all owners of the yellow ones to turn them into local fire station for replacement or something.

Re: Final DC3 flights in perth (possibly)

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:11 pm
by WPXZBP
Aircraft are exempt.

Re: Final DC3 flights in perth (possibly)

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:24 pm
by Zebedee
For info, here's the CASA Airworthiness Directive that covers that type of extinguisher...

Specifically:

"The use of Halon fire extinguishers is now covered by Commonwealth Regulations. The Commonwealth Department of the Environment and Heritage (DEH) administers regulations covering the possession of Halon. See Regulation 304 of the Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas Management Regulations 1995. In essence, it is an offence to be in possession of Halon unless it is contained in fire protection equipment installed in, or carried in, an aircraft."

Re: Final DC3 flights in perth (possibly)

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:26 pm
by ConstableCare
Always RX wrote:I think you mean "Charlie Whiskey Sierra" :D . It's a shame the business couldnt survive here. It will be interesting to see what Rob has planned for her now.


The facts are:

1) There is plenty of work for this "old girl" to keep running but alas our Govt. friends at CASA have screwed over this Operation from the beginning;
2) Dave owns the aircraft and Dave made the heartbreaking decision to cease Operations.
3) A potential buyer for the A/C exists and is inspecting the "old girl" on Monday!

EDIT MOD: Removed Inflammatory Statements, Please keep it nice, AO11912

Re: Final DC3 flights in perth (possibly)

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:33 pm
by Nafenn
ConstableCare wrote:
The facts are:

1) There is plenty of work for this "old girl" to keep running but alas our Govt. friends at CASA have screwed over this Operation from the beginning;
2) Dave owns the aircraft and Dave made the heartbreaking decision to cease Operations.
3) A potential buyer for the A/C exists and is inspecting the "old girl" on Monday!
Lets be honest here... CASA arent happy unless they screw someone over

I have kept a little bit of a tab on the business (when possible), and both Dave, Bill (Daves Father for all of those who dont know, and one of the pilots - generally sits in the left hand seat) along with the other crew have worked their asses off for the company, and it is a shame that opperations had to cease.

I also hope that the perth buyer does purchase the aircraft... and if not, someone who will appreciate the aircraft for what it can do, and how few there are flying in this day and age (3 in australia including this one)


EDIT MOD: removed Quote Comments, AO11912

Re: Final DC3 flights in perth (possibly)

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:39 pm
by ConstableCare
Nafenn wrote:...and how few there are flying in this day and age (3 in australia including this one)
This is the last true DC-3 operating in Australia. The remainders are C-47's that have undergone conversions...

CC 8)

Re: Final DC3 flights in perth (possibly)

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:47 pm
by Nafenn
ConstableCare wrote:
Nafenn wrote:...and how few there are flying in this day and age (3 in australia including this one)
This is the last true DC-3 operating in Australia. The remainders are C-47's that have undergone conversions...

CC 8)
Mr Pedantic :P

if you want to get technical:

it actually said during the flight that CWS was a C-47 that was converted ;)

Image

Re: Final DC3 flights in perth (possibly)

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:56 pm
by gkoutlis
Fremantle Shipyards, our entry point into the Jandakot Controll Zone
With all due respect - The picture you quoted the above - IS NOT Shipyards to which we use to approach Jandakot according to the lastest GAAP procedures for Jandakot.

Ship Yards is located to the West of Adventure World way before Fremantle. It is the only entry point from the West that you can track inbound to Jandakot - unless your from the city and using Mt.Henry Bridge as a Visual Reference.

I know this, because I have flown/fly this route many times...

G