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what federal boundary are the airports in?
state/federal and who is responsible for policing
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Re: jurisdiction

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Airports are Federal land

The federal police patrol the airport

WAPOL will take command over from AFP if something big happens
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Just to be arrogantly technical, The airport is Crown Land :)

If you go out to the Airport hold3n, its just AFP. And like kirk said, if something big happens (excl federal matters), WAPOL will take over
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Nafenn wrote:Just to be arrogantly technical, The airport is Crown Land :)
And to be technically technical, about 36% of the area of WA is also crown land ;)

(You can have crown land that's vested in either the state or the commonwealth. State crown land includes things such as conservation reserves, pastoral leases and other such things.) :P

According to the AFP themselves, they say they are the "primary law-enforcement agency at the 11 major Australian airports". Under a new policing model being introduced progressively from 2009, the AFP have "Airport Police Commanders", who are "responsible for the coordinated command and control of aviation security and policing activities at the 11 airports in partnership with federal and State government agencies and private sector organisations as required."

The review of policing in Australia in 2009 contained the following in the report, which makes for some interesting reading...
Aviation security, and in particular the policing of Australia’s principal airports, has been a subject of Commonwealth/State controversy since 1970. Following the application of state criminal laws (as Commonwealth law) to airports in that year, the Commonwealth has made a number of attempts to extricate itself from the policing of airports, recognising a strong link between criminal threats to airports, the local criminal milieu and state police capabilities, while simultaneously acknowledging its responsibilities under international law for aviation security. It has never succeeded in passing responsibility completely and clearly to the states.

Over the years this has led to what is described as a hybrid model, with the Commonwealth providing the funding and Protective Service Officers while State police forces provide the bulk of the sworn police members. Even with generous Commonwealth support not all States have been either willing or able to provide the pledged level of staffing. Successive reviews have been critical of the complexity of these hybrid arrangements recommending either an ‘All Out’ approach in which the States/Territories accept responsibility for airport policing, or an ‘All In’ approach in which the Commonwealth provides an integrated airport policing capability.
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The Audit has reluctantly concluded, acknowledging it is a view not shared by a number of chief police officers, that the ‘All In’ model is likely to be more sustainable in the long run. In reaching this conclusion the Audit had particular regard to Commonwealth international obligations, its broader responsibilities concerning the regulation of aviation and airports more generally, its legal capacity in relation to all Australia’s principal airports to put any issues of AFP powers beyond doubt, and the public expectation of consistently high standards and approaches to aviation security across the nation. The ‘All In’ model also represents significant cost savings to the Commonwealth. Accordingly it has recommended the Commonwealth should vigorously pursue the replacement of the existing Unified Policing Model with an ‘All In’ model under which the Commonwealth accepts the responsibility of funding and staffing nationally coordinated airport security and policing services, noting that this will likely take several years before being fully operational. It should take any legislative action, or pursue the renegotiation of arrangements in a number of states and territories, to ensure that the powers of AFP members policing airports are clear and adequate to the task.
Based on what's in the report, and the AFP website above, I'd say that by 2014, the AFP will have sole responsibility for managing policing within Perth Airport. There may be cases where the WA Police are also involved, but I think the AFP will be the "lead agency" and have ultimate responsibility.

The only part I don't know, from the report and the AFP site, is how far along this process they already are.
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Zebedee wrote: And to be technically technical, about 36% of the area of WA is also crown land ;)

(You can have crown land that's vested in either the state or the commonwealth. State crown land includes things such as conservation reserves, pastoral leases and other such things.)
eg Beaches (and the dunes) which can be policed by various authorities at various times
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We All Get Tied Up The Technicals Dont We :lol:
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Re: jurisdiction

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AFP are now resonpsible for community policing at Perth Airport and within the Airport Precinct.
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dazla wrote:AFP are now resonpsible for community policing at Perth Airport and within the Airport Precinct.
they always have been...
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