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Qantas - Grounded

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:32 pm
by written_ficton
Could eventually see this happening, but not this soon!

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/top-sto ... 6180311641

Re: Qantas - Grounded

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:36 pm
by vk6hgr
Wow.

Re: Qantas - Grounded

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:38 pm
by Infernal
Well, the unions only have them self to blame

Purvinas has been calling for people not to fly Qantas between now and Christmas, what does that mean for its union members, well less passengers mean less work, which means more job insecurity

The unions need to pull their head in before they break the airline

As for Gillard not stepping in, well she is the Labor government, it was her/Rudd government that allowed unions back into power

Re: Qantas - Grounded

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:41 pm
by written_ficton
I think the unions have already screwed it, but Joyce heavy handed approach of grounding the airline is a little uncalled for 'I believe'

Re: Qantas - Grounded

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:55 pm
by Nafenn
Image

Re: Qantas - Grounded

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:10 pm
by Infernal
Oh well, Joyce trying to prove that what the unions are doing is going to cause them all to be out of a job

Re: Qantas - Grounded

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:11 pm
by dlcat1
I can't help but be reminded of what happened at the ports back in....98? I'm sure both sides could have put more effort into negotiating an outcome before this, but I do think Nafenn summed up the current situation pretty concisely.

Re: Qantas - Grounded

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:13 pm
by Zebedee
AO11912 wrote:The unions need to pull their head in before they break the airline
Gotta love the quote from PerthNow of what Joyce apparently said:

"We are locking out until the unions withdraw their extreme claim and reach agreement with us,"

So that's his idea of "negotiation" then? Sounds a bit like "our way or the highway" to me.

I predict that either the government will step in and make a ruling that's binding to both sides, or Joyce will be gone before the end of the year.

Whatever people's opinions are as to who's right, the company or the unions, at least the unions (to my understanding at least) are playing by the rules and have permission from Fair Work Australia to engage in industrial action. I haven't seen anything yet in the media to suggest that Qantas has received the same permission (a lock-out of employees is defined by FWA as industrial action, so one would assume that they need to get the same permission that unions and employees do...)

It'll be interesting, that's for sure.

Re: Qantas - Grounded

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:43 pm
by Mug
This really could be massive...

Re: Qantas - Grounded

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:37 pm
by gkoutlis
Lets hope it doesn't meet the same fate as Ansett did.

G

Re: Qantas - Grounded

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:40 pm
by Infernal
It wont

Ansett went bankrupt because ANZ was milking them of their profits (ive worked with enough ex AN guys)

Re: Qantas - Grounded

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:43 pm
by gkoutlis
AO11912 wrote:It wont

Ansett went bankrupt because ANZ was milking them of their profits (ive worked with enough ex AN guys)
Ahh okay - thanks for explaining for me AO :)

G

Re: Qantas - Grounded

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:49 pm
by vk6hgr
I still call Australia home, because I sure ain't going anywhere else for a while!

Re: Qantas - Grounded

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:57 pm
by Infernal
Have we got any one savvy enough to intercept the FWA signals to Sydney?

Re: Qantas - Grounded

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:06 pm
by dlcat1
AO11912 wrote:Have we got any one savvy enough to intercept the FWA signals to Sydney?
Fair Work Australia?
Favourite Website Awards?
Football Writer's Association?
Farmworks Australia?

My (as un-political as possible) take on it...This is one way to try and force a resolution but judging by the social media streams, it has done enormous damage to the brand. I wonder if there are some at VA who are silently cheering at this.