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Re: Aviation Incidents and Accidents

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:11 pm
by Zebedee
OK this really isn't an "incident or accident" but I didn't think it deserved a thread all of it's own ;)

The West Australian reports today that an old analogue style EPIRB was activated in Balga last night about 10:30pm and tracked to a rubbish bin after the signal was picked up by an aircraft flying overhead.

Ref: http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/wa ... balga-bin/

Re: Aviation Incidents and Accidents

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:29 pm
by Magnus
Zebedee wrote:OK this really isn't an "incident or accident" but I didn't think it deserved a thread all of it's own ;)

The West Australian reports today that an old analogue style EPIRB was activated in Balga last night about 10:30pm and tracked to a rubbish bin after the signal was picked up by an aircraft flying overhead.

Ref: http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/wa ... balga-bin/
Unfortunately, this is going to become increasingly common as people dispose of the old epirbs irresponsibly.
Although these are no longer actively monitored by AMSA, their signals can still be picked up by traffic in the vicinity.

It's somewhat analagous to the way some people give their old mobile phones to their kids to play with, not realising that they can still dial 000 without a sim card.

Re: Aviation Incidents and Accidents

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:07 pm
by auntys_eyes
SJA, FRS and WAPol assembling at Jandakot A/P.
FESA ComCen advised Canning Vale 2.4 of incoming aircraft "abnormal landing". Due in at about 1710.
Mr G is observing.

Re: Aviation Incidents and Accidents

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:47 pm
by Infernal
Nathan is flying again?

Re: Aviation Incidents and Accidents

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:57 pm
by gkoutlis
VH-FTZ complete hydraulics failure. No gear locked down. Will post pics soon. Perfect txt book landing. More to follow. G

Re: Aviation Incidents and Accidents

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:03 pm
by Nafenn
AO11912 wrote:Nathan is flying again?
gee... thanks kirk ;)

Re: Aviation Incidents and Accidents

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:11 pm
by yorky
Was just shown on Channel 7, landed with nose gear down however the nose gear collapsed shortly after touchdown, nice solid straight line landing by the looks.

Re: Aviation Incidents and Accidents

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:25 pm
by gkoutlis
yorky wrote:Was just shown on Channel 7, landed with nose gear down however the nose gear collapsed shortly after touchdown, nice solid straight line landing by the looks.
Negative! I saw the entire thing. He radioed Jandakot tower that he will raise nose gear 4 a Flat Landing. Its still here on 24R if u need proof. G

Re: Aviation Incidents and Accidents

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:30 pm
by yorky
Fair enough, was a very quick showing on the news to the laymen it just looked like it collapsed.

Re: Aviation Incidents and Accidents

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:40 pm
by Fastlane
I've just rewinded back to the story on my PVR and the footage DOES show the front gear down (and collapsing) on landing.

Re: Aviation Incidents and Accidents

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:10 pm
by gkoutlis
Fastlane wrote:I've just rewinded back to the story on my PVR and the footage DOES show the front gear down (and collapsing) on landing.
The only gear down you may have seen was when it did a fly-by the tower to confirm - the situation of his Landing Gear!

I have pictures of the aircraft with no wheels down when he advised the tower his intentions were to do a "flat landing" with "gear up" - upon mid down wind - pilot reported no flaps either.

Pictures I will post first thing tomorrow, which will show no gear visible before impact with runway.
G

Re: Aviation Incidents and Accidents

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:17 pm
by Nafenn
Fastlane wrote:I've just rewinded back to the story on my PVR and the footage DOES show the front gear down (and collapsing) on landing.
can you take a screen of the aircraft on landing and upload it, i'm interested to have a look

Also: why does everything always happen when i'm away from jandakot???

Re: Aviation Incidents and Accidents

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:34 pm
by Fastlane
gk. wouldnt have said it if I wasnt sure. did you see the news footage?

some shots taken using a camera (not going through the effort of transferring the footage). you can see the gear in all 3 grabs.

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Re: Aviation Incidents and Accidents

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:44 pm
by yorky
Full Channel 7 footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJDmJg01H5w (note full HQ quality not yet processed).

Gear seems to be partially down, then mostly collapsed, then either the pilot retracted (closing the doors) or the weight pushed it in as the nose/prop come down. Obviously I can only speculate which.

Re: Aviation Incidents and Accidents

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:45 pm
by Nafenn
Fastlane wrote:gk. wouldnt have said it if I wasnt sure. did you see the news footage?

some shots taken using a camera (not going through the effort of transferring the footage). you can see the gear in all 3 grabs.

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Only the nosewheel gear is partially extended - the two main wheels are fully retracted. If the main gear was there - the wings would not have been just off the ground.

The Lancair has a tricycle wheel setup

here is one with all wheels extended:

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