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Heard a 747-400 diverted to perth with one engine turned off.Radio said it was an internal fuel leak.Air svces au said plane landed safley all OK.
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Perth Airport was evacuated this morning due to a "suspicious package".

Caused approx 15mins delay according to the news.

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Just got an SMS from my instructor:

apparently a Mooney (VH-SOM) has done a wheels up landing at Jandakot Airport. they have skidded off the runway. details sketchy, but its a shame im 900 miles from there, didn't see it :(
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Just saw a Qantas (i think a 767) - looking shakey on landing and being observed by Channel 7 chopper 12:58.

Was driving East on Orrong Rd - and saw it low level with Ch7 tailing a good distance from it. Anyone know what's happening?

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gkoutlis wrote:Just saw a Qantas (i think a 767) - looking shakey on landing and being observed by Channel 7 chopper 12:58.

Was driving East on Orrong Rd - and saw it low level with Ch7 tailing a good distance from it. Anyone know what's happening?

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Second excitement for Perth Airport for the day ... An electrical fault caused the fire alarms to go off in Terminals 2 and 3 which were subsequently evacuated.

Nafenn and I were near the airport this evening and thanks to the heads-up from Numloxx, got to listen to the chaos on the trunking system. They were trying to get people back into the buildings in an orderly manner after the fire brigade had given the all clear ;)
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Now is it just me, or, did that reporter give the impression that the 'co-pilot' on a Qantas 737 is not a 'real' pilot, and can't fly a plane???? :evil: :evil: :evil:

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spartacus wrote:Now is it just me, or, did that reporter give the impression that the 'co-pilot' on a Qantas 737 is not a 'real' pilot, and can't fly a plane???? :evil: :evil: :evil:

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I didn't get that impression from the quoted article, but I've certainly gotten that impression from previous reports on previous incidents.

There seems to be this perception that a co-pilot or first officer, whichever term you prefer to use, is a "pilot's assistant" rather than a fully qualified pilot in his or her own right. Yes ultimately the captain is responsible for the aircraft, but the co-pilot is just as capable and just as competent as the guy in the left hand seat...
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Zebedee wrote:I didn't get that impression from the quoted article, but I've certainly gotten that impression from previous reports on previous incidents.

There seems to be this perception that a co-pilot or first officer, whichever term you prefer to use, is a "pilot's assistant" rather than a fully qualified pilot in his or her own right. Yes ultimately the captain is responsible for the aircraft, but the co-pilot is just as capable and just as competent as the guy in the left hand seat...
Bingo... Both the Co-Pilot and the Captain have the EXACT same training as far as flying that specific aircraft goes... granted the captain might have more experience overall, but the Co-Pilot can still well and truley fly!
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A man was killed when his crop duster crashed in a paddock on Broomehill Road [Kojonup] about 8:00am

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009 ... 745395.htm

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Hi all,

Just at work, looking at Flight Explorer, when I noticed a DJ 737 flying YPPH-YPPH.
DJ696 Destined to YMML is coming back to YPPH.ETA 1940.

Not sure why it's coming back, maybe medical, or tech issues? Rego is VH-VBO.

Cheers,

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Nafenn wrote:
Zebedee wrote:I didn't get that impression from the quoted article, but I've certainly gotten that impression from previous reports on previous incidents.

There seems to be this perception that a co-pilot or first officer, whichever term you prefer to use, is a "pilot's assistant" rather than a fully qualified pilot in his or her own right. Yes ultimately the captain is responsible for the aircraft, but the co-pilot is just as capable and just as competent as the guy in the left hand seat...
Bingo... Both the Co-Pilot and the Captain have the EXACT same training as far as flying that specific aircraft goes... granted the captain might have more experience overall, but the Co-Pilot can still well and truley fly!
A Captian has Command of the plane, they have the same flying skills, but over all the Captian for that flight is the person in charge of the aircraft for that segment, it is not uncommon to see 2 Qualified Captians flying the same ship.

Basiclly they do extra stuff like, responsable persons training, to take command if things go wrong.

After all it was the FO that landed that DC when the window flew out, because the captian was on the roof.
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AO11912 wrote:
Nafenn wrote:Bingo... Both the Co-Pilot and the Captain have the EXACT same training as far as flying that specific aircraft goes... granted the captain might have more experience overall, but the Co-Pilot can still well and truley fly!
A Captian has Command of the plane, they have the same flying skills, but over all the Captian for that flight is the person in charge of the aircraft for that segment, it is not uncommon to see 2 Qualified Captians flying the same ship.

Basiclly they do extra stuff like, responsable persons training, to take command if things go wrong.

After all it was the FO that landed that DC when the window flew out, because the captian was on the roof.
The FO and Captain usually take turns flying legs, taking off and landing aircraft over routes aswell.

And its fairly commoun practice from what i have heard to have two captains on board - but one will act as pilot in command, the other as the co-pilot
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Nafenn wrote:
AO11912 wrote:
Nafenn wrote:Bingo... Both the Co-Pilot and the Captain have the EXACT same training as far as flying that specific aircraft goes... granted the captain might have more experience overall, but the Co-Pilot can still well and truley fly!
A Captian has Command of the plane, they have the same flying skills, but over all the Captian for that flight is the person in charge of the aircraft for that segment, it is not uncommon to see 2 Qualified Captians flying the same ship.

Basiclly they do extra stuff like, responsable persons training, to take command if things go wrong.

After all it was the FO that landed that DC when the window flew out, because the captian was on the roof.
The FO and Captain usually take turns flying legs, taking off and landing aircraft over routes aswell.

And its fairly commoun practice from what i have heard to have two captains on board - but one will act as pilot in command, the other as the co-pilot
Further investigation, the older 737-800's that Qantas have, do not have a steering tiller on the right hand side, and this would be why the Aircraft was towed, not under its own steam.
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