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UBC396XT Firmware

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:03 am
by OzPrepper
I did a quick search of the forums but couldn't see anyone asking this so thought I'd ask if there was ever firmware updates for the Australian version of the 396XT, the US version seems to of had quite a few updates.

All I could find online was a firmware update for compatibility with UBC RH96 remote head but it is not for the scanner it's self.

Cheers

Chris

Re: UBC396XT Firmware

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:11 am
by yorky
Uniden Australia don't list any, they don't even supply the programming software like the non X model which is just silly. Obviously you can use FreeScan but it's like after sales support doesn't exist for such an expensive product.

Re: UBC396XT Firmware

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:22 am
by OzPrepper
I agree Yorky, as you said for something so expensive you would think we would get firmware updates like the US counterpart.

I have emailed Uniden so will be interesting to see what they say.

Re: UBC396XT Firmware

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:10 pm
by rustynswrail
OzPrepper wrote:I agree Yorky, as you said for something so expensive you would think we would get firmware updates like the US counterpart.
I have emailed Uniden so will be interesting to see what they say.
Ever stop to think that no firmware updates have been issued because they are not needed?

What is wrong with the unit in terms of firmware that needs correcting or updating? By all means let me know I will pass it on to Uniden.

Just because the US version has an update doesn't mean we have one. They are for all intents and purposes two different products.

R

Re: UBC396XT Firmware

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:38 am
by OzPrepper
rustynswrail wrote:
OzPrepper wrote:I agree Yorky, as you said for something so expensive you would think we would get firmware updates like the US counterpart.
I have emailed Uniden so will be interesting to see what they say.
Ever stop to think that no firmware updates have been issued because they are not needed?

What is wrong with the unit in terms of firmware that needs correcting or updating? By all means let me know I will pass it on to Uniden.

Just because the US version has an update doesn't mean we have one. They are for all intents and purposes two different products.

R
I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with it I just would of thought that, like some products you buy there are bugs and tweaks that they think of fixing, adding or improving after it has been released.

Maybe it was made perfect right off the bat and doesn't need an update.

Re: UBC396XT Firmware

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:20 am
by rustynswrail
OzPrepper wrote:
rustynswrail wrote:
OzPrepper wrote:I agree Yorky, as you said for something so expensive you would think we would get firmware updates like the US counterpart.
I have emailed Uniden so will be interesting to see what they say.
Ever stop to think that no firmware updates have been issued because they are not needed?
What is wrong with the unit in terms of firmware that needs correcting or updating? By all means let me know I will pass it on to Uniden.
Just because the US version has an update doesn't mean we have one. They are for all intents and purposes two different products.
R
I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with it I just would of thought that, like some products you buy there are bugs and tweaks that they think of fixing, adding or improving after it has been released.
Maybe it was made perfect right off the bat and doesn't need an update.
No one is suggesting it is perfect, nothing is. But most of the firmware updates apparent in the US are to do with changes in their 800 MHz trunking assignments and the move to 700 MHz by many public safety agencies. We obviously have not had the same changes therefore the lack of firmware updates.

At least one of the US firmware changes was to correct a previous update to do with the channel numbering in 700 MHz trunking.

If and when a firmware change is required, Uniden will release it on their website, of that you can be assured.

R

Re: UBC396XT Firmware

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:29 am
by OzPrepper
rustynswrail wrote: No one is suggesting it is perfect, nothing is. But most of the firmware updates apparent in the US are to do with changes in their 800 MHz trunking assignments and the move to 700 MHz by many public safety agencies. We obviously have not had the same changes therefore the lack of firmware updates.

At least one of the US firmware changes was to correct a previous update to do with the channel numbering in 700 MHz trunking.

If and when a firmware change is required, Uniden will release it on their website, of that you can be assured.

R
Thanks for the information, I am still getting used to all the latest technology of new scanners, I am still learning about what trunking is, 20 years ago I would just enter frequencies and away I would go.

Re: UBC396XT Firmware

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:39 pm
by rustynswrail
OzPrepper wrote:
rustynswrail wrote: No one is suggesting it is perfect, nothing is. But most of the firmware updates apparent in the US are to do with changes in their 800 MHz trunking assignments and the move to 700 MHz by many public safety agencies. We obviously have not had the same changes therefore the lack of firmware updates.
At least one of the US firmware changes was to correct a previous update to do with the channel numbering in 700 MHz trunking.
If and when a firmware change is required, Uniden will release it on their website, of that you can be assured.
R
Thanks for the information, I am still getting used to all the latest technology of new scanners, I am still learning about what trunking is, 20 years ago I would just enter frequencies and away I would go.
If not now then very soon, basically everything you have learned about scanning will be redundant. The days of entering a frequency and away you would go are gone. Today when have multiple digital platforms to deal with not just P25, but DMR, NXDN/IDAS, P25 Phase II, GSM-R and TETRA to name but a few. While some of these modes will remain elusive others will become common place to the scanner user.

Without sounding rude or putting anyone down, it will be a case of keep up or give up if we as a hobby do not embrace and learn the new modes and the methods associated with them. Alas I have deviated off topic, here endeth the lesson.

R

Re: UBC396XT Firmware

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:28 pm
by OzPrepper
rustynswrail wrote:If not now then very soon, basically everything you have learned about scanning will be redundant. The days of entering a frequency and away you would go are gone. Today when have multiple digital platforms to deal with not just P25, but DMR, NXDN/IDAS, P25 Phase II, GSM-R and TETRA to name but a few. While some of these modes will remain elusive others will become common place to the scanner user.

Without sounding rude or putting anyone down, it will be a case of keep up or give up if we as a hobby do not embrace and learn the new modes and the methods associated with them. Alas I have deviated off topic, here endeth the lesson.

R
Certainly seems to be heading that way, so far everything I have programmed in has been 'conventional' but I am sure it won't be too long before I will need to read up about what P25, MOT, EDCS and LT all mean with this 396XT.

Re: UBC396XT Firmware

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:33 am
by vk6hgr
That, unfortunately, is the problem. The scanner's capabilities are set in stone.

The new digital modes (those that aren't encrypted, anyway) are receivable but not with a handheld scanner, but using a Software Defined Radio. An SDR is essentially a USB TV tuner and some clever software on your PC.

Re: UBC396XT Firmware

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:27 am
by rustynswrail
vk6hgr wrote:That, unfortunately, is the problem. The scanner's capabilities are set in stone.
The new digital modes (those that aren't encrypted, anyway) are receivable but not with a handheld scanner, but using a Software Defined Radio. An SDR is essentially a USB TV tuner and some clever software on your PC.
The capabilities of the HQ Holden were also set in stone. But designers, over time developed new technologies and incorporated them into new models. Who would have thought that a car would effectively be a moving computer.

Before we condemn scanning to the scrap heap (encryption etc) lets wait and see what the future brings.

Now where did I leave the keys to the horse and buggy?

R