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Re: skyworks 2010
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:35 pm
by Zebedee
Nafenn wrote:Out of Curiosity, where did you get 119.70 and 129.70 from? I cant find either on Garden Island, Perth FIC, Perth Airport, Jandakot Airport, or RAAF base pearce's information pages in the ERSA?
119.700 is registered as a frequency at Pearce. (
LINK)
127.900 is registered to Cunderdin Airport (
LINK) (the list said 127.900 not 129.700 - the latter is registered to a company at Perth Airport...)
The ACMA database is a wonderful thing =D>
Re: skyworks 2010
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:15 pm
by spartacus
Nafenn wrote:
Out of Curiosity, where did you get 119.70 and 129.70 from? I cant find either on Garden Island, Perth FIC, Perth Airport, Jandakot Airport, or RAAF base pearce's information pages in the ERSA?
I can't remember where 119.7 came from but it was on my list from last year. 127.9
was used last year by aircraft in the "zone," which I assume to be a special bit of airspace specifically for the event. It was also used for the same purpose in the Red Bull Air Race.
Re: skyworks 2010
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:20 pm
by richard omeara
I heard it today.119.700.
Re: skyworks 2010
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:25 pm
by Fitzyyy
Dont forget 489.400 (transperth security and all the other bus freqs)
and does anyone know if there will be some non digital police frequencies?
Re: skyworks 2010
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:31 pm
by Nafenn
NOTAM has been issued:
C57/10
TEMPO DANGER AREA (AREA ALPHA) ACT
WI CLASS C AIRSPACE TO FACILITATE VFR OPS DURING AIR BP AIRSHOW.
LATERAL LIMITS: S32 00.8 E115 47.4, S31 58.4 E115 47.7, S31 54.9
E115 48.9, S31 51.4 E115 49.4, S31 52.1 E115 52.2 (CORNER REID
HIGHWAY ALEXANDER DRIVE), S31 56.0 E115 53.0, THENCE ALONG THE MINOR
ARC OF CIRCLE 2NM RADIUS S31 58.1 E115 51.6 (PERTH WATER) TO S32 00.0
E115 52.3, S32 00.6 E115 51.0 (CANNING BRIDGE), S32 01.7 E115 49.4
(CORNER CANNING HIGHWAY NORMA ROAD), S32 00.8 E115 47.4.
PILOTS INTENDING TO OPERATE WI THE AREA MUST OBTAIN A PRE-FLIGHT
BRIEFING FROM THE DISPLAY ORGANISER WERNER BUHLMANN TEL. 0438 973524
EMAIL WERNER.BUHLMANN(A)AVWEST.BIZ
AND OPR VFR ON FREQ 127.9 MHZ
ATC CLR NOT REQUIRED. ATC AND DIRECTED TRAFFIC INFORMATION SERVICE
NOT PROVIDED.
ADMINISTERING AUTHORITY: AIRSERVICES AUSTRALIA
SFC TO 1500FT AMSL
FROM 01 260730 TO 01 261300
C10/10
TRAINING FLT( ILS/VFR OVERSHOOTS AND VFR TRANSITS OF CONTROL AREA C )
NOT PERMITTED AT PERTH
DUE TO FIREWORKS DISPLAY
FROM 01 261145 TO 01 261245
C34/10 REVIEW C14/10
FIREWORKS AND SEARCHLIGHT COMBINED DISPLAY WILL TAKE PLACE
WI 0.5NM RADIUS OF PERTH WATER, SWAN RIVER
(BRG 256 MAG 5.5NM FM PERTH VOR)
SFC TO 2000FT AGL
FROM 01 261200 TO 01 261230
Re: skyworks 2010
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:12 am
by richard omeara
Im getting one sided P-25 unencrypted on 465.250.Sounds like they may be setting up for the Skyshow.
Re: skyworks 2010
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:28 am
by merlo
Hi Richard and all with a digital scanner!
Yep, I have been scanning for digital transmissions this morning. I have so far found the following, some of which were police channels used during New Year's Eve celebrations:
465.2500 (some unencrypted P25 transmissions - "....Command" and also "...confirm your location" were heard)
465.5750 (some unencrypted P25 transmissions)
466.1500
467.1500
467.6250
469.4000
Most transmissions have been encrypted, with the occasional P25 unencrypted slipping through. I too am under the impression that these frequencies are currently being "set-up" or checked. There was quite a few transmissions happening between 09.30 and 10hrs. After 10hrs they have been fairly quiet.
Who knows? Maybe as crowds build up and foot patrols begin their shift we may start to hear more unencrypted transmissions. Fingers crossed.
I'll report back later when I have more....
Re: skyworks 2010
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:00 am
by merlo
Update:
465.5750 - heard "Forrest Street Command", P25 unencrypted.
Looks like a command post has been set up around Forrest Street (South Perth), off Mill Point Road (???)
Mixture of encrypted and unencrypted......
Re: skyworks 2010
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:35 pm
by Nafenn
update with the airspace... city control appears to be using holding points zulu and xray... xray appears to be south of the swan river, not a clue where zulu is
Re: skyworks 2010
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:04 pm
by VK6ZUK
Well good to see WAPOL alive again for a change!!
P25 is coming in nice and clear.
Looks like they have activated an Analog FM channel.
468.725
Replicating some of the P25 transmissions.
Re: skyworks 2010
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:54 pm
by yorky
VK6ZUK wrote:
Looks like they have activated an Analog FM channel.
468.725
Old channel 36 for those playing at home, and any idea how much info is on that replication and what location it might be?
Re: skyworks 2010
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:06 pm
by vk6hgr
They might've relinked the analogue channel because they could have run out of digital portables (those things can't be cheap...) Still a nice Australia day gift from VKI to WARSUG
Sitting near the supreme court gardens... As you'd expect there's people EVERYWHERE but the crowds seem to be well behaved.
Re: skyworks 2010
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:19 pm
by richard omeara
Im not geting the analouge frequancy.Geting the digital clear as.
Re: skyworks 2010
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:57 pm
by merlo
Just confirming for those with a digital scanner, the following digital channels were quite busy,
465.2500
465.5750
466.1500
467.1500
467.6250
469.4000
All channels are a combination of encrypted and unencrypted P25. Still, the unencrypted P25 transmissions coming in loud and crystal clear!! Channels seem to be getting busier now (21hrs) that the Skyworks are over....
Re: skyworks 2010
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:53 pm
by merlo
right, digital handhelds aren't cheap - but there are two costs involved! One cost is the digital handheld, the other cost is the licence to operate/use the encryption! Both not cheap.
I am from S.A. and the S.A. police are on the G.R.N (Government Radio Network) with digital + encryption. Many other government departments over in S.A. are moving onto the GRN and going digital (unencrypted) because of the audio quality. (e.g. buses & trams).
However, I heard last year that the encryption licence renewal for SAPOL was being reviewed because of the cost involved (big $$$). Perhaps only going encrypted for certain channels. But I have heard nothing since....
Anyway, the point being is digital + encryption is not cheap. My understanding is that encryption needs to be paid for for each licence, similar to proprietry software on your computer. But I guess our governments are prepared to pay for it....
Anyone else know more on the licencing of the encryption from Motorola and costs?