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Hi all,

For my personal information, that I do not know I have come here to ask a couple of questions relating to a non-fiction book I am writing in my spare time. I want to get as much information correct as possible.

A couple of questions / idea's of what I think is current

Perth Central Fire station has current [ x ] amount of fire - fighters on at any current shift. Is three rotation shifts every 24hours?

Perth Central currently comprises of the following units?

- Medium Pumper x 2? [1 x Series 3, 1 x Series 4]
- Heavy Pumper x 1
- Bronto skylight CLP1
- Incident Control Vehicle
- Line Rescue

[This is what I can see when walking past during weekdays, there is a ute and a van which I am unsure of]

I have heaps of questions though I'd thought I'd start with some very basic questions to see if people are willing to help me out.

I am not anyway lined with any emergency group, though follow with great passion and I am thinking about joining a volley station soon when current time permits!

I understand if you are unable to provide such information I seek. I hope that I shall be able to gain on everyone's knowledge.

[P.S I understand I have spelt fiction wrong]

Hey Written that would be ,

1 heavy Pump
1 Medium Pump
1 Medium pump/ Heavy Rescue

1 CLP <Climbing Ladder Plattform
1 Personell Carrier<not Incident Controll Vehicle this is located at Belmont Fire Station>
1 Ute
1 USAR Truck
1 Dm Metro Car




And as for shifts 2 per 24 hour period

Best contact FESA for that information. That way you know it will be correct.

FESA HEAD OFFICE

Street Address:
FESA House
480 Hay Street
PERTH WA 6000

Postal Address:
GPO Box P1174
PERTH WA 6844

Telephone: +61 8 9323 9300

Fax: +61 8 9323 9384

Email: fesa@fesa.wa.gov.au

WPXZBP wrote:Best contact FESA for that information. That way you know it will be correct.

FESA HEAD OFFICE

Street Address:
FESA House
480 Hay Street
PERTH WA 6000

Postal Address:
GPO Box P1174
PERTH WA 6844

Telephone: +61 8 9323 9300


Fax: +61 8 9323 9384

Email: fesa@fesa.wa.gov.au

Thanks, I am in the process of drafting an email.

wasaint wrote: 1 CLP <Climbing Ladder Plattform

CLP = Combined Ladder Platform

WPXZBP wrote:Best contact FESA for that information. That way you know it will be correct.

HAHAHAAA, that's a good one Wes That all depends on who you get to answer the questions though...

bomber, not sure if is it combined, thought it was Combination (easiest to stick to CLP, or aerial appliance). The model of Bronto apparatus fitted to the truck (the actual ladder platform part), is called a Bronto Skylift, they are a European company, google and you can see more.

As for the pumper allocation, there is always at least a Heavy Pumper (HP2), and a Series IV MPHR, the third pump seems to vary a bit, but usually a Series IV, not III. I think they get stuck with a spare alot though.

Shifts - all career stations are on the 10/14 roster, where each platoon works 10 hour day shift for 2 days, then 14 hour night shift for 2 nights, and then 4 days off.

I'd recommend reading a few of the historical books, some of which can be purchased through the museum, you would probably have to contact the FESA library whilst the museum is beig renovated.

thanks kylep,

So can I understand that at any one given shift at perth central it would be active with 14 fire fighters? given the basis of

4 x 1 heavy Pump
4 x 1 Medium Pump
4 x 1 Medium pump/ Heavy Rescue
2 x 1 CLP <Climbing Ladder Plattform

Whats the hirarchy as I cannot find anything on it

Does it go,

Firefighter
Station officer
Senior Station officer?

firefighter
senior firefghter
leading firefighter
station officer
D.M Metro ( at perth)

there are classes between firefighter and senior firefighter. I think they are based on your current level of study towards senior firefighter.3rd class to 1st class. i'm a bitmuddled there. maybe wes could help out?
I'm only a vollie so if there is a perm on here they might shed a bit more light on this.

This appears to be the current award, some interesting reading, and a good source of research for anyone wishing to know more about the structure of the FRS.

Fire Brigade Employees' Award, 1990, No. A 28 of 1989
1. - TITLE

This Award shall be known as the Fire Brigade Employees' Award, 1990, No. A
28 of 1989 and shall replace the Fire Brigade Employees' Consolidated
Award 1975, Fire Brigade Officers Consolidated Award 1975, and the Fire
Brigade Employees' (Servicemen, Extinguisher and Hose Services Branch)
Consolidated Award 1975.


++++++++++++++++++

These are the ranks for Firefighters in the award. However, they are usually referred to as Firefighter, Snr F/f, Station Officer, and then the District Manager and higher...

|Trainee Firefighter
|3rd Class Firefighter
|2nd Class Firefighter
|1st Class Firefighter - Level 1
|- Level 2
|- Level 3
|Senior Firefighter
|Station Officer - Level 1
|- Level 2
|District Officer
|Superintendent

|Communication Systems Officer - level 1
|Communication Systems Officer - level 2
Communication Systems Officer - level 3
Communication Systems Officer - level 4


7. - PROMOTIONS


(1) Firefighters will be eligible for progression through the firefighter
classifications subject to the following:


(a) Upon attainment of the skills and competencies at the trainee
level, a trainee firefighter will progress to the level of 3rd class
firefighter.


(b) 3rd class firefighters will progress to 2nd class after 1 year's
satisfactory service in 3rd class and successful completion of the
appropriatecompetency levels.


(c) 2nd class firefighters will progress to 1st class, level 1 after 1
year's satisfactory service in 2nd class and successful completion of
the appropriatecompetency levels.


(d) 1st class level 1 firefighters will progress in 1st class level 2
after 1 year's satisfactory service in 1st class level 1 and
successful completion of the appropriatecompetency levels .


(e) 1st class level 2 firefighters will progress to 1st class, level 3
after 1 year's satisfactory service in 1st class level 2 and
successful completion of the appropriate competency levels .


(f) 1st class level 3 firefighters will progress to senior firefighter
after 1 year's satisfactory service in 1st class level 3 and
successful completion of the appropriate competency levels .


(2) Promotion to vacancies at the Station Officer Level 1 rank will be from
Senior Firefighters (or equivalent) who have successfully attained the
appropriate competencies (or equivalent) as agreed between the parties in
accordance with merit selection.


(3) Promotion to Station Officer Level 2 rank will be from Station Officers
(or equivalent) after two years service at Station Officer Level 1 who
have successfully attained the appropriate competencies (or equivalent) as
agreed between the parties.


(4) Promotion to vacancies at the District Officer rank will be from Level
2 Station Officers (or equivalent) who have successfully attained the
appropriate competencies (or equivalent) as agreed between the parties in
accordance with merit selection.


(5) Promotion to vacancies at Superintendent rank will be from District
Officers (or equivalent) who have successfully attained the appropriate
competencies (or equivalent) as agreed between the parties in accordance
with merit selection.


(6) A fire safety assistant will progress between the grades on attainment
of the appropriate skills and competencies required for the position.


(7) Communication Systems Officers will progress between the levels on
attainment of the appropriate skills and competencies as agreed between
the parties.

Its about time we had some W.A fire books in the libraries. Would be great if you put in some pictures of the different fire appliances we have.

Idea for your next book:

W.A Bushfire Service

Goodluck and be sure to let us in on the title so we can read it

There are several books from ex-Firefighters and Officers, as well as historians and researchers, based on the WAFB and FRS. There's a good chance there are also some BFB/BFS based books out there. Note that som of these 'books' aren't the flashy sorts that you see alot of these days. They are often more of a historical account.

I purchased a few from the Museum, but as I mentioned, you may be able to get hold of them through the FESA library, or you may be able to get hold of the Historical group by phone or email, if you can't wait for the museum to reopen.

The leading firefighter rank that was eluded to earlier is still a rank within the FRS career ranking structure. It has though due to natural attrition become almost non exsitent.

It was a rank in the country stations before stations officers were introduced. he was the senior man and took on that role.

Also with respect to ranks there is a change of eppaulettes in the Career FRS

3rd class, 2nd class, 1st class level 1 - crossed axes - first 3 years
1st class level 2 and 3 - crossed axes and 1 hook- years 4 and 5 of service
Senior FF - Crossed axes with 2 hooks- after 5 yrs
SO- 2 impellers
DO-3 impellers

For those who are interested. A little taste tester

Rescue one rolled through the gloaming, the road ahead strobing red and blue, puddles of light swirling across the tarmac and the sidewalks and the storefronts. Paterson liked the view from the cab better after dawn, the flashes and reflections, the streaky contrast of sharp colours against the muted gray of the sky.

32-40 years later as i think if you were D/O. from been a probie f/fighter

written_ficton wrote:For those who are interested. A little taste tester

Rescue one rolled through the gloaming, the road ahead strobing red and blue, puddles of light swirling across the tarmac and the sidewalks and the storefronts. Paterson liked the view from the cab better after dawn, the flashes and reflections, the streaky contrast of sharp colours against the muted gray of the sky.

Not wanting to rain on your parade, but if Paterson isn't a real person, your book isn't exactly non-fiction is it