Pursuits and other events

GC101 · Post by **GC101** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:53 am

[quote="CHEV4EVR"][quote="celestial_insight"]what time was the gosnells one?[/quote]

WRX 1, GTO Monaro 0

Not much has got away from that one this week :twisted:[/quote]

Gday chev, is the new WRX a class 1 vehicle mate? and will the Duty Isp let it lead a chase?

Post by **auntys_eyes** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:37 am

Schism_ wrote:Was just a story on the news about two officers from scarbs who were shot by their own tasers, the offender was tasered and pepper sprayed too, and they somehow were both injured...

Was at that scene fairly quick (even beat 7 & 9

). Man was squatting on CALM land near Herdsman Lake, CALM officer requested police to assist removing him, man attacks police, lots of police back up. 4 cars there when i arrived. Offender taken to Scarborough Station. One vehicle left at scene awaiting SOCO when i left. All the officers on scene were very friendly, and i thank them for their assistance

Post by **Tyranus** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:44 am

auntys_eyes wrote:
Schism_ wrote:Was just a story on the news about two officers from scarbs who were shot by their own tasers, the offender was tasered and pepper sprayed too, and they somehow were both injured...
Was at that scene fairly quick (even beat 7 & 9 ). Man was squatting on CALM land near Herdsman Lake, CALM officer requested police to assist removing him, man attacks police, lots of police back up. 4 cars there when i arrived. Offender taken to Scarborough Station. One vehicle left at scene awaiting SOCO when i left. All the officers on scene were very friendly, and i thank them for their assistance

Meaning you got photo's??

:D

Markmywords · Post by **Markmywords** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:09 pm

He tasered them both ? he mustve been quick

jmmw · Post by **jmmw** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:33 pm

I dont understand how that could have happened? unless when the probes were fired one hit each officer?

The female officer was hit in the back according to the paper, they didnt mention the male officer being hit so perhaps while he was trying to take the taser from the man he made contact with the front charge electrodes?

BLiNG · Post by **BLiNG** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:09 pm

Kinetic · Post by **Kinetic** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:20 pm

jmmw wrote:I dont understand how that could have happened? unless when the probes were fired one hit each officer?

The female officer was hit in the back according to the paper, they didnt mention the male officer being hit so perhaps while he was trying to take the taser from the man he made contact with the front charge electrodes?

If you touch someone get tazered you will get shocked too.

BLiNG · Post by **BLiNG** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:45 pm

Kinetic wrote:
jmmw wrote:I dont understand how that could have happened? unless when the probes were fired one hit each officer?

The female officer was hit in the back according to the paper, they didnt mention the male officer being hit so perhaps while he was trying to take the taser from the man he made contact with the front charge electrodes?
If you touch someone get tazered you will get shocked too.

I don't think it quite works like that?

Someone want to clarify?

Chicky · Post by **Chicky** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:51 pm

Schism_ wrote:Was just a story on the news about two officers from scarbs who were shot by their own tasers, the offender was tasered and pepper sprayed too, and they somehow were both injured...

Audio here

Post by **yorky** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:03 pm

BLiNG wrote:
Kinetic wrote:
jmmw wrote:I dont understand how that could have happened? unless when the probes were fired one hit each officer?

The female officer was hit in the back according to the paper, they didnt mention the male officer being hit so perhaps while he was trying to take the taser from the man he made contact with the front charge electrodes?
If you touch someone get tazered you will get shocked too.
I don't think it quite works like that?

Someone want to clarify?

Depends what model the taser's are. You would need to become part of the electrical circuit to be zapped I would imagine.

Kinetic · Post by **Kinetic** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:46 pm

yorky wrote:
BLiNG wrote:
Kinetic wrote: If you touch someone get tazered you will get shocked too.
I don't think it quite works like that?

Someone want to clarify?
Depends what model the taser's are. You would need to become part of the electrical circuit to be zapped I would imagine.

Model wouldn't matter.

You are right about the circuit though, as long as the other officer was grounded somewhere he would get a nasty shock.

Post by **yorky** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:53 pm

There are still many models though with different properties.

Post by **Tyranus** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:33 pm

Kinetic wrote:
yorky wrote:
BLiNG wrote: I don't think it quite works like that?

Someone want to clarify?
Depends what model the taser's are. You would need to become part of the electrical circuit to be zapped I would imagine.
Model wouldn't matter.

You are right about the circuit though, as long as the other officer was grounded somewhere he would get a nasty shock.

Electricity goes shortest path to ground, if someone touched someone getting tazered they may get a small zap but that should be it, unless they're standing bare foot in a puddle of water. same principle applies if the other person was to come in contact before the tazered person, then generally they will get more of a shock than the other person as the electricity will take the shortest path to earth. Now working on this theory. Must admit wouldn't mind having a look at the circuit diagram for one of their tazers could tell you exactly what's going on then.

Kinetic · Post by **Kinetic** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:07 am

Tyranus wrote:
Kinetic wrote:
yorky wrote: Depends what model the taser's are. You would need to become part of the electrical circuit to be zapped I would imagine.
Model wouldn't matter.

You are right about the circuit though, as long as the other officer was grounded somewhere he would get a nasty shock.
Electricity goes shortest path to ground, if someone touched someone getting tazered they may get a small zap but that should be it, unless they're standing bare foot in a puddle of water. same principle applies if the other person was to come in contact before the tazered person, then generally they will get more of a shock than the other person as the electricity will take the shortest path to earth. Now working on this theory. Must admit wouldn't mind having a look at the circuit diagram for one of their tazers could tell you exactly what's going on then.

Actually electricity takes the path of least resistance. If it took the shortest path lighting would go in a perfectly straight line.

As the amount of electricity flowing through something increases so does the effective resistance (Thats why the more electricity you pump through something the hotter it gets)

So giving the electricity an alternative path like in the case of grabbing someone getting tazed will give you a pretty severe shock (Not the the extent of actually getting tazed yourself though)

EDIT: Also water is a poor conductor of electricity, infact pure water won't conduct electricity at all.

jmmw · Post by **jmmw** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:13 am

Kinetic wrote:
jmmw wrote:I dont understand how that could have happened? unless when the probes were fired one hit each officer?

The female officer was hit in the back according to the paper, they didnt mention the male officer being hit so perhaps while he was trying to take the taser from the man he made contact with the front charge electrodes?
If you touch someone get tazered you will get shocked too.

I'm sorry but i have my doubts about this.

When i saw the police taser a violent person there was still about 3 officers piled ontop, and they didnt seem too bothered. I honestly think that if you were going to be shocked by it from touching a suspect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAKbplNGhDo

2:30 of this video shows one man being held by two others while tasered and neither showing ill effects during the entire 5 second shock.